Newly added Event at World Finals

[punishum]

There will be a newly added event at the World Finals.

It will be called the "Humble Shoe Eating Contest".

We just got confirmation that Rhys Millen will be making it out to Hawaii for the World Finals IN November just an hour ago. We will have the phone interviews from him shortly and have them up on Punish'UMs site and on the upcoming shows on K-5 and Oceanic.

So when you throw out things like that you should honor them.

Or just learn to keep your loud mouths shut.

[punishum]

DS hasn't gone anywhere, and we don't need to borrow money to run our events. We could hold one this month if we had the right place to do it in. And that's somethign we're still working on. Until then, attend every event you can...work to get better, and keep your spirits up. Sooner or later, we're going to have a track to drift properly on.

I have never bashed DS or you you dick head until now. But that is all you do. Funny you should mention that Mike. Please come to my face for once, be a man. And please don't show me your leg again.

You will NEVER have the right place or time. It is a track that has to be built or set up from scratch any place that you go now. You can never use our sponsor for barriers cause you won't get their support and the only other company, Grace Pacific that rents safety equipment, when we went to inquire about prices they asked us if we were Dirft Session. You never paid your bills.

You have never played well with anybody. Screw you and the blind horse you rode in on.

And who do you think influenced the FAA to deny you guys? I can tell you right now, it was someone from your camp you dumb shit.

You are a pawn in a game and you are being played but to stupid to realize it.

[AAX]

I have no problem saying any of this to your face, Tracy, just like I didn't have a problem saying Hi to you at the show with your squinty-eyed look of whatever the hell that was.

Why don't you tell me the whole facts then? If you know who this person is...then tell me, otherwise, you're just bluffing.

Everyone is a pawn...I do what I think is right, and it's served me well so far in my life...and you won't find anyone that's trustworthy calling me a liar. I can't say the same for you.

Good luck with your event...

[punishum]

I have no problem saying any of this to your face, Tracy, just like I didn't have a problem saying Hi to you at the show with your squinty-eyed look of whatever the hell that was.

Why don't you tell me the whole facts then? If you know who this person is...then tell me, otherwise, you're just bluffing.

Everyone is a pawn...I do what I think is right, and it's served me well so far in my life...and you won't find anyone that's trustworthy calling me a liar. I can't say the same for you.

Good luck with your event...

Forget saying hi, all you can do is make up lies with no proof. Squinty eye? At least I can see. You are so smart, figure it out for yourself. Anyone trustworthy as you call it doesn't have anything to do with you. All you got is people who don't know me and others that got kicked to the curb cause they were as honest as you.

All you got is your jealous rage.

Good luck? Fuck you, all you do is cock block.

[AAX]

Cock-block? I've got a copy of the letter you sent in to all of the news channels explaining your "opinion" about our Build The Track show at Aloha Tower and how we were full of BS. Would you like me to post it?

My first encounter with you was watching you berate and attack (while filming) an effort to get a racing facility on Oahu. I don't really care who was trying to push it, wheither it was Tom E. or Mike O, or anyone else, I just cared about getting a facility for the racing community.

I also remember talking to you on the phone, and politely listened to you tell me all of this crap about how you would never deal with Enomoto, and that you would have never given me your phone number because he's a crook and a liar, and you don't deal with people like that. And then the next thing I see, is you grovelling at his feet telling him how much you respect him, and couldn't wait to deal.

I shook your hand, and tried to be straight up and square with you from Day 1. When you came to the developer meetings, I treated you with respect.

And I have NEVER sent anything in against your events EVER. I showed up to the first two and put my money down to support your events.

My opinion of you was formed by what you did to me...not the other way around. Please try to take that into consideration. And yes...good luck with your event. I hope the drifters get their due and their fun.

[punishum]

Cock-block? I've got a copy of the letter you sent in to all of the news channels explaining your "opinion" about our Build The Track show at Aloha Tower and how we were full of BS. Would you like me to post it?

My first encounter with you was watching you berate and attack (while filming) an effort to get a racing facility on Oahu. I don't really care who was trying to push it, wheither it was Tom E. or Mike O, or anyone else, I just cared about getting a facility for the racing community.

I also remember talking to you on the phone, and politely listened to you tell me all of this crap about how you would never deal with Enomoto, and that you would have never given me your phone number because he's a crook and a liar, and you don't deal with people like that. And then the next thing I see, is you grovelling at his feet telling him how much you respect him, and couldn't wait to deal.

I shook your hand, and tried to be straight up and square with you from Day 1. When you came to the developer meetings, I treated you with respect.

And I have NEVER sent anything in against your events EVER. I showed up to the first two and put my money down to support your events.

My opinion of you was formed by what you did to me...not the other way around. Please try to take that into consideration. And yes...good luck with your event. I hope the drifters get their due and their fun.

You mean at the state capital where you decided to TRY and be tough guy and push a older gentleman Uncle Fanklin at the House Chambers and where you was about to get mobbed for thinking you was tough. And by the way it would have been great seeing you getting your ass kicked by Uncle Frank who was old enough to be your grandfather young BOY. You mean that time? I have that on video. I should post all of this crap from the capital to when you were showing your leg. I will do that. Thanks for the suggestion as cameras never lie, so we can dispel your motives and show your true colors hampering any racing unless you and your LOSER bunch are in charge. You mean that?

You were never straight with me and you and I never had talks about Mr. Enomoto. First off I don't even trust you.

There is nothing polite about your demeanor other that what you admitted, you are always calculating . . . . a coup.

And as always if the drifters didn't have their fun they would not show up in such huge numbers at our Aloha Stadium events. Sitting in line for a few runs is better than getting busted on the streets and no recognition from spectators and television. What have you offered to ANY of the racing community in the past year and a half other than cock-block and support NO racing than ANY solution unless you were in charge. Why don't you tell about the conversation I had with you inviting you, Shimo and Bryant to be a part of what we had at the stadium. Everyone else told me I was stupid but still I offered the opportunity for you guys to get involved and you DID NOT Respond.

All you do is spread disinformation and breed contempt. And all you got in return is what you deserve. "NOTHING". Show me what community based programs you have instituted? Any? You should run for politics because you are very good at spinning and screwing others. You are already owned by them anyway.

[AAX]

C'mon Tracy...you know the truth about all of this...we shouldn't even be having this discussion. I'll respond one more time, just to clear up the fallacies...but I'm done after this.

I wasn't involved in that "push-shove" thing. If you would please post the video, I'd appreciate it. If you'd like, I could have the person that was involved post here to clear it up. You might want to watch the video again.

As for the foot thing, I've got that on DVR, I believe. I don't mind...please do post it. But that wasn't at the State Capitol, it was at a Neighborhood Board Meeting. As far as the Enomoto thing...I won't get into it too much out of respect for him...but if you never had talks with him, then why did you show up to the developer meetings? Also, maybe I should as Sean if I ever called him to get your number. Hmm...something doesn't sound right.

I've worked very hard at finding a suitable place for locations to race, for quite awhile, and I know where I stand on that, so I won't get into that.

In our conversation, over the phone, what you told me about Shimos and Bryant, was that you wanted to totally FAWK Sean and Steve-0 for the crap that happened with XD-1. That you wanted to end them and you wanted to have an event that would crush their start-up operations. I talked to Tom & Dave, and they responded they didn't want to have anything to do with it, and that's why we never responded to you. That's not the way they do business.

It seems that you're not honest to yourself, and your not interested in being honest with some of the very important people like Sean and Steve that have helped you run these events. The only disinformation I see being spewed is by you, and it's unfortunate.

We've always got a chance to be straight up...it's whether you take that chance and be honest with yourself that matters the most. People will see you for what you are.

We can keep going on and on like this...but I'd rather stop and just let it go. Thanks.

[Need4Speed]

AAX,

From reading the other threads on this website regarding OMAC and their efforts, did you expect anything less?

[dirt racer]

"It seems that you're not honest to yourself, and your not interested in being honest with some of the very important people like Sean and Steve that have helped you run these events. The only disinformation I see being spewed is by you, and it's unfortunate."


Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black! You've posted on your site that you didn't want the Stadium. Total bullshit. You tried to get the Stadium for drifting as did others. You were denied. You even posted it on FH, but as usual things there go "poof". DS sent in a letter to the Stadium trying to hamstring XD-1 before it even got started. Then they follow up with a complaint to the BBB. If you have a REAL case of fraud then call the damn cops. Or take it to civil court. You got NOTHING on Tracy.

And talking about "disinformation"? That's what OMAC has been doing from the get go. What about all the bullshit about this new track at Parcel 9 that you're "working so hard at getting"? Where's the progress? What about all of OMAC's "more viable" options? Total bullshit again. If your group had any brains you would have joined SORT's efforts from the first SORT meeting last year when I told you dumbfucks to show up and listen. But NOOOO, you gotta slop up MO's shit with a fork and spoon. And do everything you can to shoot down SORT's efforts. DS are the ones that burned their bridges and they are FINISHED.

Sure you want free speech on FH to bash Tracy, but when I'm posting the TRUTH about OMAC's BS you go crying to the mods to have me banned.

[AAX]

I was wondering when you'd show up to spew more manipulative half-truths. Let me clear up the fallacies, again.

I, myself not DS, went to the stadium and inquired as to what it would take to use the stadium for the possibility of events (not just drifting but go-karting, road racing, etc). The response I received was that it would be necessary to repave the entire lower parking lot in order to hold events there. I'm sure anyone that remembers the rumors going around about Punish'um getting Grace Pacific to repave the parking lot, pretty much clarifies my point exactly.

Upon hearing about having to repave, I touched base with both Tom and Dave, who did the numbers and discussed the entire situation. I opted not to follow-up on it further. The SCCA situation changed that, because Curtis had worked on it three years, and had been getting everything set in place. Upon hearing about Curtis's developments, DS looked at it further and came to several conclusions: SCCA was trying to get permanency, we figured the cost to run events would be prohibitively expensive, the amount and scale of the drifting would be marginally less, and the cost for the drivers would be higher than at HRP. DS decided it wasn't worth investigating futher, as the high speed events would be former shadows of themselves, and the cost was too great.

And about this BS you're spewing about DS sending in some letter against XD-1, it never happened. DS sent in a proposal, and comments that were POSITIVE about drifting at the stadium. I'll post it here, so everyone can see that you're wrong, yet again...and only speaking half the truth.

Aloha Stadium Authority,

Aloha! My name is David Shimokawa and I am the Marketing Director and co-founder of Drift Session, LLC. We have recently heard of the push to allow drifting to take place at Aloha Stadium and are very happy with that possibility.

In February of this year, our Media Director, Mike Kitchens (who is also the head of the Oahu Motorsports Advisory Council), approached the Stadium about the possibility of holding drifting events there. Mike was told that drifting was possible with the condition that the lower parking lot be repaved. Is this still a condition or have there been any changes since February?

The Drift Session is all in favor of drifting events taking place at Aloha Stadium until a permanent racetrack can be built. We would like to offer our services to the Stadium Authority and any other groups interested in conducting motorsports activity at Aloha Stadium. Our knowledge and experience in drifting and road racing can benefit the motorsports community and help to ensure that drifting and road racing have a safe and prosperous future at the Stadium.

The Drift Session has been involved in the growth of drifting since our mainstream introduction of drifting in the United States back in 2001. In 2001, the Drift Session, LLC. began as the first series and competitions for drifting outside of Japan. Since 2001, the Drift Session has grown into the first of 2 independant competitive drifting series in the United States. As an event organizer and sanctioning body, the Drift Session has been responsible for overseeing and advising nearly every drifting event held in Hawaii for the past 5 years (only 3 drifting events were ever held without our counsel). The Drift Session has been responsible for all of its own events as well as overseeing the safety, operations, and liability for our many sub-leasees. Co-founder Tom Bryant is a certified racing instructor with 20+ years of racing and teaching experience and I was recently featured in Drifting Magazine as one of the most influential people in American drifting today.

The Drift Session's innovations, operations procedures, rules, judging method, and intellectual property have become a mainstay in the world of American drifting. Drift Session content has appeared in countless magazines, videos, TV shows, news broadcasts, and radio programs, as well as the books "Drifting" and "How to Drift," the Playstation 2 video game "Street Racing Syndicate," and the promotion of the Universal Pictures movie "The Fast & the Furious: Tokyo Drift." If you want to talk about drifting, we are the experts in this country and we can easily get in touch with the experts in Japan as well.

Overall, the Drift Session has built a reputation of excellence over our 6 year history. You would find it difficult to locate another motorsports organization in Hawaii that operates with the same standards of integrity and honor as the Drift Session, LLC.

If you have any questions about drifting, please do not hesitate to contact us. We would be happy to assist in the growth and development of this amazing sport.


As far as P9 goes, we've NEVER been the ones building it or working on the development. We have ALWAYS been supporters. And we still stand by it. The viable options we presented were reviewed, and like everything, there's complications...but that doesn't mean we're not trying or working hard at getting it done. The countless meetings with city and state representatives prove that.

Your comments about how DS is finished? Completly laughable. First, it shouldn't even be about that. DS has always been open to working with others, and has always supported other events in it's long history. Second, DS has been around a long time...their name is published in many different forms and articles as being one of the founding organizations of drifting in the US. Dave S. is internationally known for bringing drifting to the forefront. Hell, they've got an entire chapter about them in the ONLY history book on drifting that's printed. Until I see you with that reputation, I really don't think you can claim ANYONE is finished. At least Tom and Dave are humble about it. That's more than I can say for you.

DS can, and will survive without track events until the moment is right, and they're able to do events properly. DS doesn't burn bridges, they make them.

And as far as FH, goes...I never requested that you be banned. Your own mouth and attitude did that to yourself. Maybe if you weren't calling people dumbfucks all the time, you wouldn't have that problem.

[dirt racer]

"I was wondering when you'd show up to spew more manipulative half-truths. Let me clear up the fallacies, again.

I, myself not DS, went to the stadium and inquired as to what it would take to use the stadium for the possibility of events"

Right. You're not DS when it's convenient, just like you're not OMAC when it's convenient. You're not the P9 developer, you don't know the cost or the time frame or any other details, but you KNOW that P9 is a more viable option. YOU are the one that's laughable and only a MO puppet.

And I guess the Stadium didn't want DS "services", neither does anyone else.

[dirt racer]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/ht11.jpg

We chose not to pursue it? Sounds like you DID pursue it but they turned you down. Hence the sour grapes.


Aloha! My name is David Shimokawa and I am the Marketing Director and co-founder of Drift Session, LLC. We have recently heard of the push to allow drifting to take place at Aloha Stadium and are very happy with that possibility.

In February of this year, our Media Director, Mike Kitchens (who is also the head of the Oahu Motorsports Advisory Council), approached the Stadium about the possibility of holding drifting events there. Mike was told that drifting was possible with the condition that the lower parking lot be repaved. Is this still a condition or have there been any changes since February?

The Drift Session is all in favor of drifting events taking place at Aloha Stadium until a permanent racetrack can be built. We would like to offer our services to the Stadium Authority and any other groups interested in conducting motorsports activity at Aloha Stadium. Our knowledge and experience in drifting and road racing can benefit the motorsports community and help to ensure that drifting and road racing have a safe and prosperous future at the Stadium.

The Drift Session has been involved in the growth of drifting since our mainstream introduction of drifting in the United States back in 2001. In 2001, the Drift Session, LLC. began as the first series and competitions for drifting outside of Japan. Since 2001, the Drift Session has grown into the first of 2 independant competitive drifting series in the United States. As an event organizer and sanctioning body, the Drift Session has been responsible for overseeing and advising nearly every drifting event held in Hawaii for the past 5 years (only 3 drifting events were ever held without our counsel). The Drift Session has been responsible for all of its own events as well as overseeing the safety, operations, and liability for our many sub-leasees. Co-founder Tom Bryant is a certified racing instructor with 20+ years of racing and teaching experience and I was recently featured in Drifting Magazine as one of the most influential people in American drifting today.

The Drift Session's innovations, operations procedures, rules, judging method, and intellectual property have become a mainstay in the world of American drifting. Drift Session content has appeared in countless magazines, videos, TV shows, news broadcasts, and radio programs, as well as the books "Drifting" and "How to Drift," the Playstation 2 video game "Street Racing Syndicate," and the promotion of the Universal Pictures movie "The Fast & the Furious: Tokyo Drift." If you want to talk about drifting, we are the experts in this country and we can easily get in touch with the experts in Japan as well.

Overall, the Drift Session has built a reputation of excellence over our 6 year history. You would find it difficult to locate another motorsports organization in Hawaii that operates with the same standards of integrity and honor as the Drift Session, LLC.

If you have any questions about drifting, please do not hesitate to contact us. We would be happy to assist in the growth and development of this amazing sport.

[Mud Packer]

AAX,

From reading the other threads on this website regarding OMAC and their efforts, did you expect anything less?

Please explain "OMAC Efforts"; 2 car shows and ? Can someone help me? I seem to have forgotten EVERYTHING that they did for (or against) the racing community?

[Need4Speed]

Please explain "OMAC Efforts"; 2 car shows and ? Can someone help me? I seem to have forgotten EVERYTHING that they did for (or against) the racing community?
No, I won't explain anything to you, why should I? You don't listen anyway. You are a part of the problem, sir, and I use that term loosely.

Your organization opposed the tax bills that would have helped the new facility move forward. Your organization wanted Mike Oakland out along with the new facility because you called it bullshit.

Continue to burn your bridges and your new race track with those plans for asphalt and a 1/8 mile will never happen. If it does, the people who could really help you will never show up.

No, again, I'm not Mike Oakland and I don't jack off to national geographic.

[Mud Packer]

No, I won't explain anything to you, why should I? You don't listen anyway. You are a part of the problem, sir, and I use that term loosely.

Your organization opposed the tax bills that would have helped the new facility move forward. Your organization wanted Mike Oakland out along with the new facility because you called it bullshit.

Continue to burn your bridges and your new race track with those plans for asphalt and a 1/8 mile will never happen. If it does, the people who could really help you will never show up.

No, again, I'm not Mike Oakland and I don't jack off to national geographic.

You sound like a broken record. Change your needle.

[Need4Speed]

The same could be said for you.

[Mud Packer]

The same could be said for you.

You know you make me hard when you talk. Are you male or female? Please let me know ASAP!

[AER]

WOW, this is probably part of the reason we dont have a track right now. to much dumb asses(you know who you are) starting trouble and talking shit just to prove their right. maybe as soon as we can put our egos aside and be civil to each other we can get things done. i know i can speak for a lot of other people by saying this is why a lot of race enthusists dont get involved with looking for a place to race. so much shit going on no one wants have anything to do with it.

[Need4Speed]

There was another website when the track closed. It was erased.

[Need4Speed]

You know you make me hard when you talk. Are you male or female? Please let me know ASAP!
Sorry, no personal info, I don't wanna get raped on the internet by you.

[Mud Packer]

WOW, this is probably part of the reason we dont have a track right now. to much dumb asses(you know who you are) starting trouble and talking shit just to prove their right. maybe as soon as we can put our egos aside and be civil to each other we can get things done. i know i can speak for a lot of other people by saying this is why a lot of race enthusists dont get involved with looking for a place to race. so much shit going on no one wants have anything to do with it.
Realistically speaking, we can talk shit and start trouble all we want on this sight. I think this is part of the reason for having a sight like this. The reason why alot of race "Enthusiasts" dont get involved is because they probably dont have a clue on what is happening; all they know is what people like you tell them; "wow, they talking shit" or "they think they tough" if you look past that, stop being a procrastinator, really know what's being done to get a racetrack, all you have to do really is pick the side you wanna be on and GET INVOLVED.

[Need4Speed]

What are you saying exactly? If you are an asshole or a professional take your pick?

Your comments DO NOT help your organization one bit. In my opinion, but I know you don't give a shit what I think.

Have a nice life.

[Admin]

WOW, this is probably part of the reason we dont have a track right now. to much dumb asses(you know who you are) starting trouble and talking shit just to prove their right. maybe as soon as we can put our egos aside and be civil to each other we can get things done. i know i can speak for a lot of other people by saying this is why a lot of race enthusists dont get involved with looking for a place to race. so much shit going on no one wants have anything to do with it.

Welcome to the board, and all opinions are welcomed here without the type of propaganda censorship you'll see on other boards.

[Chad89GT]

all you do is cock block.

Cock-block? I've got a copy of the letter you sent in to all of the news channels explaining your "opinion" about our Build The Track show at Aloha Tower and how we were full of BS.

You mean this one?

http://www.paradisecruisers.com/TracyLetter.jpg

[Mud Packer]

What are you saying exactly? If you are an asshole or a professional take your pick?

Your comments DO NOT help your organization one bit. In my opinion, but I know you don't give a shit what I think.

Have a nice life.

I mean you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink. In fact, we are all assholes (without a track). My comments DO NOT hurt them either; they already got a bad rap from people like you. So if you wanna be a sheep and follow the herd, go for it.

[Need4Speed]

At least you admit YOU are ALL assholes. I'm actually a nice person, you wouldn't know what that is, so I guess I can't blame you for that.

Therefore, people like me give assholes like you a bad rap. This is true.

On a lighter note, I actually enjoy reading all this bullshit on this propaganda website you tools have. I am amazed that there is actually people so ignorant in this world. Really.

[Mud Packer]

At least you admit YOU are ALL assholes. I'm actually a nice person, you wouldn't know what that is, so I guess I can't blame you for that.

Therefore, people like me give assholes like you a bad rap. This is true.

On a lighter note, I actually enjoy reading all this bullshit on this propaganda website you tools have. I am amazed that there is actually people so ignorant in this world. Really.
Believe me, what I TYPE in here is only entertainment for me. I could be standing right in front of you and there is no way in a million years you would know I was Mud Packer. You must think that the way we express ourselves on this sight is showing how ignorant I/we am/are. You are sadly mistaken my friend. And dont forget now; people like me will give your asshole a bad rap.

[Need4Speed]

Oh really? I'll guess your initials are LW.

[dirt racer]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/RIH1.jpg

Good questions!

No wonder Kitchens had that confused look on his face. :confused:

[Need4Speed]

No wonder this website is the way it is. Your the head tool.

[dirt racer]

At least you admit YOU are ALL assholes. I'm actually a nice person, you wouldn't know what that is, so I guess I can't blame you for that.

Therefore, people like me give assholes like you a bad rap. This is true.

On a lighter note, I actually enjoy reading all this bullshit on this propaganda website you tools have. I am amazed that there is actually people so ignorant in this world. Really.

I believe the correct grammar is "I am amazed that there "are" actually people so ignorant in this world."

Or an even better sentence would be "I am amazed that there are actually people this ignorant in the world."

I mean, what other "worlds" are there that you know of where there are ignorant people?

Your English teachers would not be impressed with your grammar Mr. Speed. Sure you're not Oakland? :rolleyes:

[dirt racer]

No wonder this website is the way it is. Your the head tool.

I believe it's "you're" the head tool.

Anyway, you seem to be enjoying it! :D

[Need4Speed]

Oh, so you have a brain afterall. Nice catch Mr. Grammar Police.

Get it through your big head that I'm not Oakland. What is the fascination with that guy anyway?

[Mud Packer]

Oh really? I'll guess your initials are LW.

LW? Who the hell is that. My initials are FS. Any other guess?

[dirt racer]

Oh, so you have a brain afterall. Nice catch Mr. Grammar Police.

Get it through your big head that I'm not Oakland. What is the fascination with that guy anyway?

I believe that after and all are two separate words.

Just pointing out the way Oakland used to butcher the Queen's English. :eek:

But you're not Oakland so no worries.

[Need4Speed]

Well, well, well. Mr. Franklin Souza is Mud Packer? How nice, a SORT founder posting stupid shit like that.

Les Vallarano, check my IP and get off the Oakland trip.

*Edited for spelling*

[Mud Packer]

Well, well, well. Mr. Franklin Souza is Mud Packer? How nice, a SORT founder posting stupid shit like that.

Les Vallarano, check my IP and get off the Oakland trip.

*Edited for spelling*

Just because my initials are FS, doesnt mean Franklin Souza. You should watch what you say about him and SORT.

[LJW]

Oh really? I'll guess your initials are LW.
Hi, my initials are L.W. without my middle initial (J) just wanted to know if i'm getting dragged into something, thanks (my friend told me about this site forum)

[Need4Speed]

Just because my initials are FS, doesnt mean Franklin Souza. You should watch what you say about him and SORT.
Nothing negative was said about Mr. Souza. I commented on YOUR stupid posts. You should watch what you post.

[Need4Speed]

Hi, my initials are L.W. without my middle initial (J) just wanted to know if i'm getting dragged into something, thanks (my friend told me about this site forum)
I'm sure there must be more than one person with those initials. Don't let anyone drag you into anything. Welcome to the forum.

[kawika219]

wow...how old are we again guys? tracy, just because you run the show doesnt mean you act like an immature kid when shit gets flung in your face. now i dont know the facts about everything, but my impressions of some people just went down the shithole. how the fuck are we (drifters) supposed to feel when we read this kind of childish shit talking between people old enough to be our parents? this is the people promoting our events? where has the fun in drifting gone? IMO, the only reason why xd-1 is some what successful is because we just want to drift. we just want somewhere to do it legally without BS. im sure if you ask the drifters, MOST will say the DS was a way better format and way less politics. if feel as if XD-1 tried to turn drifting into a form of entertainment, but failed at that aspect. seeing this kind of drama is very disheartening and i feel disscouraged to event participate in events like this.

[Need4Speed]

Take a look at my avatar. I can not believe you guys did this. I thought this site was not going to be censored?

You pieces of shit put a pic of Mike Oakland on my screen name, totally uncalled for and totally incorrect!!!

I guess freedom of speech is not something this site supports and you reSORT to these kind of games.

[Need4Speed]

Fuck you guys!

[punishum]

wow...how old are we again guys? tracy, just because you run the show doesnt mean you act like an immature kid when shit gets flung in your face. now i dont know the facts about everything, but my impressions of some people just went down the shithole. how the fuck are we (drifters) supposed to feel when we read this kind of childish shit talking between people old enough to be our parents? this is the people promoting our events? where has the fun in drifting gone? IMO, the only reason why xd-1 is some what successful is because we just want to drift. we just want somewhere to do it legally without BS. im sure if you ask the drifters, MOST will say the DS was a way better format and way less politics. if feel as if XD-1 tried to turn drifting into a form of entertainment, but failed at that aspect. seeing this kind of drama is very disheartening and i feel disscouraged to event participate in events like this.

You know who I am. I don't know who you are. Why don't you and I meet and we can work this out. One way or another. You all know how to get a hold of me.

[punishum]

Hey Kawika 219. Were you at the meetings? Or were you the kid I met that works at the "Hobby Company"? Why are you getting so negative? You aren't even competing and just being a . . . Punk. Contact me and let's meet. 497-3645.

[dirt racer]

Take a look at my avatar. I can not believe you guys did this. I thought this site was not going to be censored?

You pieces of shit put a pic of Mike Oakland on my screen name, totally uncalled for and totally incorrect!!!

I guess freedom of speech is not something this site supports and you reSORT to these kind of games.

Wow what a cry baby! First of all that's a nice picture of you! :D And it's very easy to change with your User CP features. If you can't figure it out, just ask your favorite puppet Kitchens. (he uses the same software)

[dirt racer]

wow...how old are we again guys? tracy, just because you run the show doesnt mean you act like an immature kid when shit gets flung in your face. now i dont know the facts about everything, but my impressions of some people just went down the shithole. how the fuck are we (drifters) supposed to feel when we read this kind of childish shit talking between people old enough to be our parents? this is the people promoting our events? where has the fun in drifting gone? IMO, the only reason why xd-1 is some what successful is because we just want to drift. we just want somewhere to do it legally without BS. im sure if you ask the drifters, MOST will say the DS was a way better format and way less politics. if feel as if XD-1 tried to turn drifting into a form of entertainment, but failed at that aspect. seeing this kind of drama is very disheartening and i feel disscouraged to event participate in events like this.

Childish shit talking seems to be par for the course on internet forums. Sometimes you have to sift through the B.S. to get the facts.

As far as comparing the current drift promoter with the "former" drift promoter, I can tell you that the promotional aspect is what got the new guys approved. Drifting at the Stadium has gotten more press and TV coverage than I've ever seen from ANY events at HRP, thanks to Tracy. Press and TV coverage that promotes the drivers, the events, and the sport. The Aloha Stadium wants large numbers of spectators and TV exposure promotion. The only thing DriftSession ever promoted was themselves. (read their letter)

And David Shimokawa filing a complaint against Tracy with the BBB was pretty damn weak, IMO. :mad:

One other thing - DriftSession's Media Director, Mr. Michael Kitchens, has played a critical role in opposing the efforts to reopen Hawaii Raceway Park. That is a documented fact. IMO, it was HRP that the drifters miss, not their flunky former promoters. And many other venues that USED TO RUN at HRP, (long before "DriftSession" appeared) have been completely shutdown as a result of the track closing.

[dirt racer]

"You pieces of shit put a pic of Mike Oakland on my screen name"


I thought it was a pic of the Evil Emperor from Star Wars? :D

[Need4Speed]

You douche bags don't even know who you are talking to. Go ahead and change my user features to suit your liking. You are the cry baby because you can't handle my opinion without one of you saying stupid shit.

Great Job Mr. Forum Owner!

[kawika219]

Hey Kawika 219. Were you at the meetings? Or were you the kid I met that works at the "Hobby Company"? Why are you getting so negative? You aren't even competing and just being a . . . Punk. Contact me and let's meet. 497-3645.
i forgot you handle things in a very mature way:rolleyes: . you just called out a 19 year old kid. cmon now. im just commenting on how uncalled for the words were. im not taking sides right now because i DONT know all the facts. theres too much BS going around for me to actually jump in and form opinion. im just stating that the words in the first post were inappropriate and it shows a COMPLETE lack of professionalism from someone who is actually trying to "help" drifting in hawaii.

as far as why im not competing, i did pay admission for 2 events but both times my car was not mechanically sound to drive. so you did have my money and my support because i did want to drift really badly.

[Need4Speed]

Can't you see? This website is here to twist things and just rape the racers who are younger than them out of their money. Stick to the cruises man and save your hard earned money. After these events at the stadium we got the street and that's all.

Funny how they say people are against opening the old track when they themselves are against the new track that we could be drifting on right now if it wasn't for assholes like them. I'll bet you my next paycheck on that.

[dirt racer]

Can't you see? This website is here to twist things and just rape the racers who are younger than them out of their money. Stick to the cruises man and save your hard earned money. After these events at the stadium we got the street and that's all.

Funny how they say people are against opening the old track when they themselves are against the new track that we could be drifting on right now if it wasn't for assholes like them. I'll bet you my next paycheck on that.

Your next paycheck? You mean the $5 million dollars you and your partner are getting for the sale of HRP?

And NO we couldn't be drifting on "the new track" at Parcel 9. DHHL said 5 years ago that they weren't committed to that deal.

In January, officials announced a land swap agreement by which the
raceway group would purchase 180 acres of agricultural land along Kunia
Road across from the Royal Kunia subdivision, and exchange it for the
parcel in Kalaeloa.

But Hawaiian Home Lands Director Micah Kane said last week that the
potential exchange is one of several options under consideration, adding
that his agency, "has not committed to acquiring the Kunia parcel."

The Hawaii Farm Bureau raised concerns that the land swap could
ultimately lead to the shutdown of a working farm on the Kunia land. Kane said
his agency has met with farm bureau representatives and is aware of
the concern.

http://starbulletin.com/2003/04/08/business/story2.html


They've also said recently that no suitable exchange property has been offered. Read NO DEAL.
Kane said the Enomoto group has never offered property that meets his agency's goal to provide homesteads for Hawaiian beneficiaries. DHHL did not approach the Enomoto group about taking over Parcel 24 because "the ... group has never pursued a temporary parcel," he said. "They've always pursued a permanent land disposition and have never presented a parcel that met our liking that would fit a land exchange."

Enomoto was not available for comment last week.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Jun/11/ln/FP706110354.html

[dirt racer]

"Stick to the cruises man and save your hard earned money. After these events at the stadium we got the street and that's all."


You mean like the "cruise" that happened last night with over 100 cars, where 4 cars got totaled in an accident with 1 girl going to the hospital?

Great advice Mike... :mad:

[Need4Speed]

Just because I read up on the race track issue from this site and other sites and I post my opinion that you don't like, you continue to think I'm the Hawaii Raceway Park owner Mike Oakland. Classic!! This further supports my conviction that you are a tool.

Mess with my profile some more. This site is about YOUR free speech. Rightly so because you own it. Funny as shit. :D

[kawika219]

Hey Kawika 219. Were you at the meetings? Or were you the kid I met that works at the "Hobby Company"? Why are you getting so negative? You aren't even competing and just being a . . . Punk. Contact me and let's meet. 497-3645.
dont forget, i actually helped you get your supplies for your model of the stadium. i also gave you some helpful tips. show how much you appreciate help and your customers.

[dirt racer]

dont forget, i actually helped you get your supplies for your model of the stadium. i also gave you some helpful tips. show how much you appreciate help and your customers.

That was a nice model. That's the kind of presentation that helps get things approved. ;)