PunishUM Motorsports TV Show 10/21/2007

[dirt racer]

Great show Tracy! Very informative with all the information backed up by documentation. :rolleyes:

[Mud Packer]

Great show Tracy! Very informative with all the information backed up by documentation. :rolleyes:

Hey Dirt, it's been a while since I studied math; how much is 90% of 6? Thank's.

[dirt racer]

Hey Dirt, it's been a while since I studied math; how much is 90% of 6? Thank's.

Gee I don't know. But whenever anyone asks me who OMAC is, I just tell them it's Mike Oakland's group.
And they're like "yeah that's what I thought". :rolleyes:

[dirt racer]

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Gee I guess "Michael" doesn't want the truth out there about OMAC and HRP?

[Need4Speed]

Wednesday - October 17, 2007
Steve Murray
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After two years sitting idle, Oahu racers may finally be heading back to the track.
In July, Save Oahu’s Race Track signed a two-year, month-to-month lease with the state Department of Hawaiian Home Lands to use a 35-acre spot of land in Kalaeloa, known as Parcel 24, to build an oval dirt track for stock cars, dirt bikes and ATVs. A mud bog also could be added in the near future.
Evelyn Souza, SORT spokes-woman, says work to install the track could begin as soon as next month if all the permits are in order. From there, cars could once again be racing legally at the former Barbers Point within the year.

“We are still trying to eyeball the end of the year,” she said. “We’re about three months behind in our initial time line, so it could be the end of this year or the beginning of the next.”
The cost for installing the dirt track and getting the site ready for racing has been estimated at $175,000. Souza said the cost will be offset by drivers and supporters.
“Most of the projects will be done with in-kind services from a variety of people - construction, electricians, accountants, professional people, white collar, blue collar - they are all coming out here to help us do this,” she said.
While the organization was working on the deal with DHHL, it still hopes for a favorable ruling on the condemnation hearings that would allow the county to buy the former Hawaii Raceway Park (HRP) from a private developer and turn it into a recreation area for the purpose of racing. Souza says that even if the old raceway became available before SORT’s lease has expired, she will not consider the time and money invested to be wasted.
Is this a lie?

[mike_w]

"A" caller complaint. So want else is new.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[dirt racer]

"A" caller complaint. So want else is new.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

"OMAC" received a complaint about the show??? Why wouldn't the viewer complain directly to the TV Station??? Sounds like more lies from OMAC.:mad:

[dirt racer]

Is this a lie?

It's a "temporary" track.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Temporary

[Need4Speed]

I know what temporary means. It is a race track you plan to spend $175,000 and then $1,500,000. This is no laughing matter.

[tein45]

Saw the show.. it was okay.. though i saw an episode of one show back earlier in the year and it was kinda bad the audio was cutting in and out... ?

[tein45]

I know what temporary means. It is a race track you plan to spend $175,000 and then $1,500,000. This is no laughing matter.

I think anything temporary on the scale of what their doing is probably feasable to spend the $175,000 but i'm not sure about the $1.5 In the case that the money is spent I would assume Hawaii would not push for a new racetrack if their was one already and that Oahu would be stuck with a temporary track right? Isn't that the plan right now... i mean temporary but its like whoever get the a facility up first gets to stay and it'll close the case of the racetrack discussion for a good time, but if the temporary track fails it puts a harsh burden on those who want another racetrack down the road!

[Need4Speed]

I think anything temporary on the scale of what their doing is probably feasable to spend the $175,000 but i'm not sure about the $1.5
Absolutely.
In the case that the money is spent I would assume Hawaii would not push for a new racetrack if their was one already and that Oahu would be stuck with a temporary track right?
I would assume the City and State would no longer need to pursue condemnation. This would not stop other private developers from their attempts. P9 would be a good example should that become a reality.
i mean temporary but its like whoever get the a facility up first gets to stay and it'll close the case of the racetrack discussion for a good time, but if the temporary track fails it puts a harsh burden on those who want another racetrack down the road!
With a temporary track the discussion would still be ongoing until a more permenant location is fixed for all of the racers. I would agree that it would be a difficult task to fail on a temporary track and then try to build another one down the road.

[dirt racer]

Absolutely.

I would assume the City and State would no longer need to pursue condemnation. This would not stop other private developers from their attempts. P9 would be a good example should that become a reality.


Any private "for profit" developer would opt for commercial uses other than a race track that are allowed under the current LUO. And because all of the lots large enough to build a full 1/4 mile track are either sold or accounted for, condemnation is the only possible solution. Even if the County and State decides not to condemn HRP, they will have to condemn some other property in order to build a track.

The temp track operators (SORT) never envisioned the temp track as a permanent replacement for HRP. But only to allow some racing to continue until HRP is reopened, which will take a few years.

[Need4Speed]

You might think condemnation is the "only" possible solution but there are others who don't think so. As you pointed out in your show there was a promise of a new race track. To date P9 has not happened.

Choosing not to condemn and help private development would save the taxpayer millions of dollars in construction and maintenance. Not to mention millions more in possible law suits from land owners and the racers themselves. To slightly alter the vision of the harbor expansion is not an easy task. P9 is in an ideal area and the quickest solution to this problem.

By not supporting the efforts of another developer you will cause the community to seek out their own temporary tracks until the year 2020. At which point the City and State will have given proper time for private development and will have allocated funds for a raceway park. Mind you in another location. Providing there is still push for such a facility.

Anticipating the growth of the region and surrounding areas, the state Harbors Division drew up plans for Kalaeloa's expansion in its Oahu Commercial Harbors 2020 Master Plan, which was approved in 1997.
Help me find Hawaii Raceway Park in those plans. Thank you for your discussion. Be a good sport and fix my avatar back the way it was before you started messing with it.

[dirt racer]

You might think condemnation is the "only" possible solution but there are others who don't think so. As you pointed out in your show there was a promise of a new race track. To date P9 has not happened.

Choosing not to condemn and help private development would save the taxpayer millions of dollars in construction and maintenance. Not to mention millions more in possible law suits from land owners and the racers themselves. To slightly alter the vision of the harbor expansion is not an easy task. P9 is in an ideal area and the quickest solution to this problem.

By not supporting the efforts of another developer you will cause the community to seek out their own temporary tracks until the year 2020. At which point the City and State will have given proper time for private development and will have allocated funds for a raceway park. Mind you in another location. Providing there is still push for such a facility.


Help me find Hawaii Raceway Park in those plans. Thank you for your discussion. Be a good sport and fix my avatar back the way it was before you started messing with it.

You need to ask Lord Vader for help...

http://www.racinginhawaii.com/forums/memberlist.php

[Need4Speed]

I would expect more from you.

[dirt racer]

I would expect more from you.

Yeah well I'm more into restoring old things - Ferraris, Kawasakis, racetracks, etc. I'll bet DHHL would even lease the clear zone to us after they get it from the Navy. :rolleyes:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/HRPoriginallayout.jpg

[Need4Speed]

That is a possibility. Maybe that's why you were told not to get too comfortable on P24. Don't make promises you can't keep. You don't want to look like that guy you have a hard on for. :rolleyes:

[Mud Packer]

That is a possibility. Maybe that's why you were told not to get too comfortable on P24. Don't make promises you can't keep. You don't want to look like that guy you have a hard on for. :rolleyes:
Did anyone ever tell you , you look like E.T.s daddy? I got something for those stretch marks around your mouth.

[dirt racer]

Hey Dirt, it's been a while since I studied math; how much is 90% of 6? Thank's.

I guess it's been a while since Dave studied math too... :rolleyes:


"based on the figures of $20 per head and wanting 5,000 heads... these events must be in the $10,000 range to hold. that's kinda pricey in my book... but what do i know anyway?"

Not math! :D

[Chad89GT]

Yeah well I'm more into restoring old things - Ferraris, Kawasakis...

I have a disassembled '78 Z1-R I'll make you a smokin' deal on. Motor/trans is out, head is off the motor (it's been ported), even have some aftermarket cams and carbs for it. It's all there, just needs to be cleaned up and put back together. Interested?

[dirt racer]

I have a disassembled '78 Z1-R I'll make you a smokin' deal on. Motor/trans is out, head is off the motor (it's been ported), even have some aftermarket cams and carbs for it. It's all there, just needs to be cleaned up and put back together. Interested?

No thanks I'm already in the middle of an 83 GPz 750 that was being used as a planter:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/gpz1.jpg

Speaking of "smokin" deals, I have a new 347 kit for sale 1/2 price if you know anyone in the market.

[Chad89GT]

No thanks I'm already in the middle of an 83 GPz 750 that was being used as a planter:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/gpz1.jpg

Speaking of "smokin" deals, I have a new 347 kit for sale 1/2 price if you know anyone in the market.

It that the turbo bike? Those things were beasts in their day! One handed me my ass on the Z1-R :(

Do you have details on the 347 kit? Brand? Crank material (cast, forged or forged 4340)? I can pass it on to the Mustang guys.

[dirt racer]

Edit: sold

[Chad89GT]

I didn't know you're into Fords.

That's a good price. My price on that kit with Probe "Engine Builder" status is more than that for just the kit. It's real overkill for stuff in a stock roller block, though.

I have a longblock *exactly* like that in the shop now that is all going into a new Boss302 block. Poor guy didn't know a stock block would live a short, miserable life at the power level he's looking at. I have to take the whole thing appart, machine the Boss block and put it all back.

BTW, there was a serious problem with the rod bearings I had to correct on the CHP motor before he decided to scrap it and go with the Boss block. Might be worth double checking yours.

You should post it on Craig's List, I'm sure it'd sell.