event standings?

[onescruffyguy]

does anyone know what the final points and standings were for the 40 drivers?
1. Keoni rodrigues
2. verena mei
3. shiige
4.?
5.?
6.?
7.?
8.? and so on....:eek:

[mikespeed95]

Hi Everyone,
I'm the sideburns guy, that was judging. I wanted to go over all these things at the event but again, Time constraints, and we all just wanted to go home and sleep, and security deemed some of the teams too immature to have a discussion with, so now i get to write about it on a forum...:gay:


Anyways
The only real specific ranking in addition to what you have is, 4. Sammy from Tiger Racing. Earl or Tracy have copies of the brackets and such. All I have with me from the event right now are some sweet flip flops and the lamest hawaii T shirt i could find.

I will explain how we did the bracket as well since there was some confusion.

Saturday we had open qualifying where we made a top 13 cut. We were informed after that that there were some previous championship points that needed to be factored in as well, so the next day we decided it'd be best just to let either/or in since there were only 2 drivers who werent top 13 in both.

Sunday,
We had solo qualifying for any driver who was a) top 13 in championship or b) top 13 in competition day before. We wanted a full top 16 bracket but for safety purposes we didnt feel wed have 13 Hawaiin cars/drivers needed, so we opted for 8 Hawaiin drivers, and 4 seeded drivers. We gave Barry Wong a bye to the seeded rounds since he is a former Formula Drift competitior and honestly he was the #1 qualifier the day before anyways.

So the bracket was Top 8 Hawaiin guys battle it out to eliminate to Top 4 Hawaiin Drivers. The top 4 Hawaiin Drivers were then paired up against 4 Seeded Drivers who were, Sammy from Tiger Racing, Steve Oliberos, Verena Mei, and Barry Wong. After that 4 of the Hawaii vs Seeded drivers duked it out for obviously 1-4 positions, with Keoni Winning, Verena taking 2nd, and in the consolidation (3rd place) Round we had Shiige defeat Sammy from Tiger racing.

We didn't really reank them in detail other than top 8 / top 16 due to again, time constraints. We didnt have time to make the pro's qualify so we just threw them on track in random order, so it's near impossible to rank them in all honesty. With there being no constant to guage Barry, Steve, Verena, Sammy on it was honestly just put them in line.

Also to explain the judging (Which I offered to do many times, but due to again, time constraints, AFTER the event.) Here is why the passing things happened the way they did.

Sorry I dont have any names, we ran off car numbers all weekend because it's all I really had to go off of and we decided to just keep it simple due to again, time constraints.

Before any tandem went underway the pace cone, the ABSOLUTELY NO PASSING rules were laid down pretty clear.

Top 16, Hawaii #1 Qualifier vs Hawaii #8 Qualifier

1st run #1 Qualifier leads #8 Qualifier, no contest, #1 Qualifier slaughtered the #8 guy. Positions change, #8 qualifier leads #1 qualifier.

In the 1st corner the #8 qualifier washes VERY FAR out, while on the gas, meanwhile the #1 qualifier is on the proper line, and ends up passing hte #8 qualifier while #1 qualifier is obviously ON THE BRAKES. the line was that far off. once started it was honestly a very clean pass and we could NOT fault him for the pass due to the other car being so radically off line, we thought about sening them again, but for time constraint purposes we decided it wasnt needed, and honestly it was not a FORCED pass. This will come into play later.


After this we send sean to the pits to just let everyone know there will be ZERO passing from this point on. Part of tandem is adjusting to the car in front of you, no matter how slow/off line he is without passing.



---Second pass of the day

Black S13 coupe leads 1st run, makes errors, follow car has advantage. Black s13 coupe needs to have advantage to win.

Black s13 coupe tucks in tightly, not very much angle, then FORCES a pass while the other car is not very far off line at all, no reason to be passed. The lead car is near full lock and on the gas, the black car forces his way in there while at minimal slip angle. It was a dirty 2004 "I think drifting is racing" style pass and since he was already at a disadvantage from the 1st round where he led, it was the nail in the coffin for him. This is not a race, its an exhibition of car control, which is why we inststed on NO PASSING. there was ZERO reason to pass the lead car in this sitiation, ZERO. Thats why we called it like we did.



----PASS 3
#1 qualifier up against sammy. This was the most obviuos to me but apparently everyoen got bent out of shape over it. Its pretty cut and dry so I'm not goign to overcomplicate it. #1 qualifier makes errors, IIRC we sent them one more time because both of them had many flaws 1st round.

2nd round however, the #1 qualifier on his lead run, starts to spin out, runs over a clipping point and goes off course. Sammy passes him while on the ebrake due to #1 qualifier going OFF THE COURSE. Theres nothing else to explain.


Passing summary:
If lead car drives off course and you happen to pass them, thats UNDERSTANDABLE.

If lead car is ON COURSE and DRIFTING there is ZERO reason to FORCE A PASS.


Again, if there are ANY Questions I'll be more than happy to answer them just like I told everyone who was bent out of shape, however with the time constraints I did not have :30, 5 minutes, or any time to explain anything DURING the competition. You guys want to earn a pro liscence and have a pro-style competition then you cant be doing things like expecting the whole event to grind to a halt and have everything written out for you.

A Liscence was awarded to Keoni who won the event, he earned one during qualifying and I was truly impressed with his driving style as well as the #1 Qualifier who also earned a liscence. However with the Proffessionalism and to put bluntly, immaturity displayed at the event towards staff we are evaluating what actual positive contribution sending a liscence out would take, and I'm sure I'll read the "I didn't want your liscence anyway" stuff on the internet and thats fine, like I said were looking at it. I honestly wanted to discuss this at the event but apparently security didn't think anyones maturity level was high enough for that and I was denied the ability to explain and discuss (goes both ways) the subject at hand.

Anyways, Me and Mike had a great time at this event, there was a lot of misorganization and we ended up doing wayyyyyyyyy more than we were suppost to, but all in all I thought it turned out to be a good weekend, saw some good driving, some cool cars, met a lot of very nice and fun new people, and all things considered the event went pretty well after we got some organization and teamwork mid-day saturday. I/We weren't trying to pick on anyone or be too much of an asshole, but we were trying to get everyone as much seat time as possible, with the amount of disorganization, people running late, drivers showing up late on saturday, EMT leave at 5pm, Stadium laying down many many many many MANY rules, I hope you can all understand that we were just trying to make things run as smoothly as possible with zero risk of accidents/stadium becoming unhappy. If we were trying to be jerks to you guys we'd have been making everyone roll up their windows and not have passengers due to all the hands sticking out of windows, but we fully understood this was your last event for a while possibly so we tried to let you guys have as much fun as possible but while keeping a safe, organized, event with a track that always has cars on it with as little downtime as possible.

Thanks to everyone who helped with this event, ESPECAILLY all of you who volunteered your time to help the drivers get some seat time. Without you this event would have been a disaster and thank you all very much for volunteering and spending your time to help the sport. Also thanks all the Drivers and pit guys for coming out and giving us a chance, hope you all had fun. I know NOPI is out of reach financially for most of you but we wanted to offer everyone a chance to chase their dreams if they wanted to come to the mainland and drift on a national touring pro-level championship and I think we did a good job of that.

Again thanks everyone for coming out, wish the Hawaii drift scene the best. If there are any other questinos/comments/hate/whining/nudepix/taco bell coupons feel more than free to email/AIM/PM me and I'll be more than happy to discuss anything.

[mikespeed95]

also my email is mikespeed95 at gmail dot com, aim is mikespeed95, and OMGMYSPACE.COM is the same too, as well as about everything on the internet.

You can also (and please do)
http://www.nopiforums.com/index.php?showforum=91

Sorry for all the spelling errors and transpositions I'm pretty tired and don't feel like putting forth the extremely small amount of effort to fix it right now.

Again if you have any questions ASK!!!! This isnt Phil & Jeds not so Excellent Drift Series. I make a call, I stand by it and I'll be happy to tell you what I saw, and I'll also be happy to HEAR your side of the case, but as long as you understand what is done is done and you can keep it respectable, thats all I was asking at the event, and to wait until it was over. I wasnt doing it because I didnt beleive in the call I made, I did it because I didnt have time to explain/discuss anything, and I don't feel a one-sided conversation is a fair way to treat a fellow human being.

Anyways, good luck to everyone, thanks for coming out and having a good time.

[mikespeed95]

Also can someone email me a list of names/cars, I didnt get that info back ever..

[dirt racer]

Thanks Mike for chiming in to explain things, and all your guys help with the event. (and the cool vids :D )

Putting on an event like this takes a lot of time, hard work, and money. The results were a great show. The local drifters showed that they can hold their own against some of the best. Congratulations to Keoni for winning the competition, and Ron for winning the overall points championship. And for receiving the Pro NOPI licenses.

Many of us in the Hawaii racing community will now focus our efforts on supporting legislation to reopen Hawaii Raceway Park. One of the things we did at the event was to pass out flyers, and collect petition signatures in support of the track. Local drifters (and all racers) need a place to practice, and enjoy their passion. The spectators were all very supportive of reopening the track.

Thanks again Mike for all your guys hard work.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/nopi%20drift%20event/100_8227.jpg

[Ronin]

Thanks for all the extra work you guys put in. I'm just glad I got to run as much as we did on saturday & sunday.

Now that I see what your decisions were based on for the competition runs I can understand why you called it the way you did. Kind of sucks cuz we didn't know the details but fuk it, what's done is done.

For a lot of the guys who participated in the event, this was their first time in a professinally sanctioned event. A lot of us were not competing or even drifting yet when kazama, team julius, ken maeda and company came down a few years ago when we still had a race track; so we didn't get to experience all those rules and regulations like some of the old school drivers like barry and the rest.

I hope this won't stain Hawaii's reputation in the eyes of Nopi and the rest of the event holding organizations.

[mikespeed95]

Thanks guys,
Also found some video that has more than likely been seen by 90% of everyone.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bbzedCid4Bg

You can see how far off the line was on the 1st pass, and the overall sloppiness/forcing of the 2nd pass, and you can see the #1 qualifier come to a near stop after running over a clip point when sammy passes. Not trying to dwell on it but I feel like the two drivers involved feel like we were being unfair and that was not the case and the video pretty much re-iterates that, and honestly from a slightly better vantage point than the POV we had judging as far as these situations.

Again thanks everyone who came to this event and supported it, Hawaii definately has a cool group of people and I've been there when your in the heat of battle over something you care about, and while I don't agree with how some of you handled yourself I somewhat understand it, no harm no foul, just have a little patience next time on track and off.

We were super stoked going into the weekend, had to do some stuff a little above our payrate per say, but all in all we had a good time, met some cool people, saw some cool drifting, and big thanks to Steevo, Sean, Earl, Verena, Tracy and everyone for showing us around Hawaii and allowing us on this cool trip. Would love to come back if given the chance, but I think we can all agree that a little more planning would have helped this event immensely and I think everyone learned something for the better at this event.

Again thanks everyone who came out and had a good time, Congrats to all those who did well, I'd really like to see a bracket with names and such since I left my stuff there and forgot to snag contact info and keep forgetting to get it from Mike Meyers.

Thanks again, and as always any questions/comments/concerns/whatever feel more than free to contact me or mike
mikespeed95 at gmail dot com - me
michael at nopi dot com - Michael Meyers

[k1drift]

this is ron with the silver s13. not trying to cry over spilt milk but this needs to be clarified, with everything that youve said.
you said in round 1 both drivers made mistakes, so fine i could deal with that,

on that 2nd round i was"nt starting to spin out, and yes, i did hit the cone.try checking out sammys line i dont know about his line either, looks to me like no angle no drifting and a little understeer,definetly no clipping points whatso ever, so you tell me who had a better score on that run, hitting one cone, good angle, hitting clipping points or sammys run.

1st round video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgnsHdEE9CI


you said in round 1 both drivers made mistakes, so fine i could deal with that thats cool. But you stated that in 2nd round ,[ quote.]( 2nd round however, the #1 qualifier on his lead run, starts to spin out, runs over a clipping point and goes off course. Sammy passes him while on the ebrake due to #1 qualifier going OFF THE COURSE. Theres nothing else to explain.)[unquote].how could that be possible when in round 1 i led and sammy followed,so there is no possible way that he could pass me in round 2 because i was following him in round 2 ,sammy was leading inround.
if you watch the video the#1 qualifier did not almost spin out and did not hit any cones the only thing i hit was clipping points, cant say the same about sammy on that run.everyone must keep in mind the purpose of clipping points(THE TALL STRAIGHT ONES)its to get as close as possible without hitting it to gain points in the judges score cards,not staying away from it.

round 2 sammy leads not the #1 qualifier. HELLO


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1av6VU0afg


round 3 .now we are at the point where i was passed by sammy not round 2,as you said in your post .you stated that in 2nd round ,[ quote.]( 2nd round however, the #1 qualifier on his lead run, starts to spin out, runs over a clipping point and goes off course. Sammy passes him while on the ebrake due to #1 qualifier going OFF THE COURSE. Theres nothing else to explain.)[unquote].ok if you say that i was off coarse then look at the rest of the clips that means i was off coarse on those also ,i dont think so.the only reason i locked up and hit that cone because if i hit my e brake to whip around the clipping point i would have slid sideways into sammys car he should have never been trying to pass so dangerously ,especially how you rudely yelled at gene cho the #2 qualifier,who you disqualified not even 15 minutes prior.you also yelled out to all drivers over and over again, no passing,no passing,no passing at all if any one does you are done.hey if it applies to one it applies to all even professional nopi drivers,if anything they should know better they drift for nopi and should know how serious you are when you say no passing!!!but then he still passed in a dangerous area right next to the judges comming no where near the clipping points when he should have just let off and stay right on me because as you statted in your post. [ quote]After this we send sean to the pits to just let everyone know there will be ZERO passing from this point on. Part of tandem is adjusting to the car in front of you, no matter how slow/off line he is without passing.[unqute] did you read what you wrote ,NO MATTER HOW SLOW/OFF LINE HE IS WITHOUT PASSING so what your saying is sammy could not adjust is that why he passed me? you need to judge fair you cant disqualify one driver for passing one minute then let someone slide and not disqualify another even if he is a pro drifters,all the rules apply to everyone equally no matter what the sittuation NO PASSING MEANS NO PASSING IF YOU PASS YOU GET DISQUALIFIED BOTTOM LINE.

video of round 3 this is where he passes not round 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6DgSFRp5DQ


now we have round 4 sammy leads and i follow, i use the same line ive been using all day the inside line, the quicker line,the best line to get as close to the clipping point therefor gaining points ,sammy on the other hand was not even close to the clipping points might i remind you that he is leading he can choose whatever line he wants yet he chooses the outside line, no points there,i had a chance to pass on the final judging turn but i held back i didnt want to get disqualified for passing so i let him pull ahead then got back on him. now i dont think he did very well on that pass and i think points wise i should have won that round,i didnt spinn i didnt hit any cones ,ihad alot of speed, enough to pass sammy then pull back again and i hit all the clipping points .

round#4 video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhegZ_FXoxA


im not trying to be a poorsport because i know that i did pretty damn good against some of the top drifters and they know it also,it was some good drifting i wasnt happy with it but like you said earlier ,whats done is done and lets move on,cool. i just needed to give my reason for my actions i might have not chosen the right ones and should have been more professional about it but hey. so anyway as you said in your post that i would probably say that i didnt want that licence anyway, your wrong.i felt that i earned that licenced by qualifying #1 on sunday and i think i should get it.as adrifter yourself you should know how important that is. i spend alot of time and money to be at every drift event. shippingmy car from another island hotel rental car etc,every single event cost money and i do it because i love drifting ,i sponsor my self with my hard earned money and will continue by shipping my car to the us and competting with the pro drivers.whatever you deside on giving me my license or not ill just have to wait and see.if you want to get in touch with me my email is krisf@maui.net

Ron Freitas

[mikespeed95]

hey dude,
just skimmed by this forum to see if anything was new, honestly i'm about to run out the door and shouldn't have gotten online in the 1st place. I skimmed over your post and at this minute dont have the time to reply but I will do it as soon as I get home...typing that much will take more than the 10 minutes ago I should have left, but decided to check my email and stuff..

[mikespeed95]

ok I'll do my best to clarify everything. I read this in entirety and I will say that I don't have any notes from this weekend in front of me so I may have misplaced some of the times, and what I classify as rounds/runs really doesnt make any sense re-reading my posts, so again I'll try to explain best I can using my memory as far as chronological order of events. I remember the events in detail just not the specific timeslot in history it fell into. I appreciate the thought-out post and I'm glad your willing to discuss the issue.

I'm gonna keep it short and to the point, please don't take offense or read into anything too much as there is no harm/negativity intended just stating what we saw and thought processes to why we called and will call things the way we see them.


on that 2nd round i was"nt starting to spin out, and yes, i did hit the cone.try checking out sammys line i dont know about his line either, looks to me like no angle no drifting and a little understeer,definetly no clipping points whatso ever, so you tell me who had a better score on that run, hitting one cone, good angle, hitting clipping points or sammys run.

From our perspective/opinion in these runs (which was a one more time round IIRC) Sammy's line is pretty much irrelevant. He stayed on track and you didn't which was the make or break of that round. Honestly I wasn't happy with the driving from either of you but Sammy made less mistakes which was the only reason he moved on.


you said in round 1 both drivers made mistakes, so fine i could deal with that thats cool. But you stated that in 2nd round , 2nd round however, the #1 qualifier on his lead run, starts to spin out, runs over a clipping point and goes off course. Sammy passes him while on the ebrake due to #1 qualifier going OFF THE COURSE. Theres nothing else to explain..how could that be possible when in round 1 i led and sammy followed,so there is no possible way that he could pass me in round 2 because i was following him in round 2 ,sammy was leading inround.

got mixed up on run #'s due to the one more time, should have been more clear on that in my above post. Basically the OMT round when you were in follow position you both made many mistakes that we saw, and nobody had an advantage IIRC (don't really remember). The run where you led you pretty much went off course, munched a clip, and lost all speed. Sure you weren't 1000' off course, but In all honest if there had been a wall there, or dirt, you'd have been three wheels off and you lost almost all of your speed, which is pretty much off course in my book. At this point your run was pretty much over, Sammy did pass but we said no passing to illustrate we didn't want any passing, however you have to see it for what it is. If the track had a 100' cliff and one driver goes over you cant expect the other driver to follow/stop before he passes the other car. I know thats a pretty extreme example but it illustrates the idea.


if you watch the video the#1 qualifier did not almost spin out and did not hit any cones the only thing i hit was clipping points, cant say the same about sammy on that run.everyone must keep in mind the purpose of clipping points(THE TALL STRAIGHT ONES)its to get as close as possible without hitting it to gain points in the judges score cards,not staying away from it.[/quote]

If your argument is you didn't lose all your speed/99% spin out/run over a cone then I can't agree with that at all. I'm not really sure what you are trying to illustrate here, and for some reason I can't watch any of the youtube video's you've posted. The video I posted is pretty clear cut on how much speed you shaved off, and the angle of your car in relation to the camera when you hit the cone compared to everyone else's is only attainable by entering backwards, which you obviously cant do when your coming to near a complete stop.



round 3 .now we are at the point where i was passed by sammy not round 2,as you said in your post .you stated that in 2nd round , [quote]2nd round however, the #1 qualifier on his lead run, starts to spin out, runs over a clipping point and goes off course. Sammy passes him while on the ebrake due to #1 qualifier going OFF THE COURSE. Theres nothing else to explain.[quote/].ok if you say that i was off coarse then look at the rest of the clips that means i was off coarse on those also ,i dont think so.the only reason i locked up and hit that cone because if i hit my e brake to whip around the clipping point i would have slid sideways into sammys car he should have never been trying to pass so dangerously

Sorry dude but I can't agree with this one bit. A lot of what you are saying is highly redundant, however your new thoughts of you weren't off course are still nullified by the fact that you can admit that you did lock up and run over a cone, and made a big mistake. Sammy was not trying to pass you, you pretty much stopped on course after running over a cone and Sammy while not on line was safely able to navigate around your car for a "pass" and finish the course. It was your fault for locking up and running over the clipping point as you say, as judges we cannot penalize sammy for your mistake, just like how we could not penalize you for the other driver's mistake of being 100' off the 1st two clipping points while carrying little to no speed which allowed you to pass pretty much while slowing down.



especially how you rudely yelled at gene cho the #2 qualifier,who you disqualified not even 15 minutes prior.

I had no conversation with this guy other than when he came up to the judges truck WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO RUN CARS throwing a tantrum and at the point threats were made while we were trying to work and expected the event to stop for him was the point I and everyone else staffwise decided to just let security deal with it so we could get the event done.

you also yelled out to all drivers over and over again, no passing,no passing,no passing at all if any one does you are done.

I didn't yell at anyone, trying to talk over cars and everything going on with no voice is kinda difficult. We laid down the rules and we wanted to be clear. No PASSING from an intentional standpoint as we saw was allowed. However the following car being on line and just so happening to overtake the lead car due to massive errors by the lead car is at our discression, which goes back to the whole drifting IS a judges sport deal. We tried to lay down the law and enforce it fair, and I know we did a good job of that. The one forced pass all weekend was dealt with, the passer tried out of desperation after being told specifically not to do it, and he lost. Again, passing and going around a car that is off course/stopped/etc you HAVE to look at fairly and look at it as "was this pass intentional, other than coming to a full and complete stop what could the following driver have done differently." In your top 16 and you vs sammy's round we found both passes to be excusable due to huge error by the lead car.

In Black car versus s14 battle it was VERY CLEAR that the lead car was pushed off his own line by the follow car and it was a dirty pass that we looked at it as "what could the follow car have done differently", the conclusion was "well he could have not been so agressive, he could have had some actual angle, he could have done soething besides dive down inside, and try to force a pass to make up for his spin, or at least thats what we saw as judges, BUT when you spin on your lead run, then make an illegitimate pass on your second run, what do you honestly expect the judges to give you besides a loss?

hey if it applies to one it applies to all even professional nopi drivers,if anything they should know better they drift for nopi and should know how serious you are when you say no passing!!!

Not really, the judges last year allowed a lot of things to happen that will not happen this year. Also Sammy's pass was only due to you pretty much stopping with 3 wheels off course from where I was. Again goes to the whole just because the lead car falls off a cliff we cant expect the follow car to.


but then he still passed in a dangerous area right next to the judges comming no where near the clipping points when he should have just let off and stay right on me because as you statted in your post. [quote]After this we send sean to the pits to just let everyone know there will be ZERO passing from this point on. Part of tandem is adjusting to the car in front of you, no matter how slow/off line he is without passing. did you read what you wrote ,NO MATTER HOW SLOW/OFF LINE HE IS WITHOUT PASSING so what your saying is sammy could not adjust is that why he passed me?

Sammy did adjust...you went off and stopped, he yanked ebrake went wide and around. Again, you tell me what he should have done and be realistic here. We tell you not to pass so you dont try to pass.

Had to spilt posts over character limit.

[mikespeed95]

you need to judge fair you cant disqualify one driver for passing one minute then let someone slide and not disqualify another even if he is a pro drifters,all the rules apply to everyone equally no matter what the sittuation NO PASSING MEANS NO PASSING IF YOU PASS YOU GET DISQUALIFIED BOTTOM LINE.

I still don't understand how you cannot understand the blatantly obvious differences in scenarios played out between the passes you and sammy made and the black coupe..

video of round 3 this is where he passes not round 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6DgSFRp5DQ


now we have round 4 sammy leads and i follow, i use the same line ive been using all day the inside line, the quicker line,the best line to get as close to the clipping point therefor gaining points ,sammy on the other hand was not even close to the clipping points might i remind you that he is leading he can choose whatever line he wants yet he chooses the outside line, no points there,i had a chance to pass on the final judging turn but i held back i didnt want to get disqualified for passing so i let him pull ahead then got back on him. now i dont think he did very well on that pass and i think points wise i should have won that round,i didnt spinn i didnt hit any cones ,ihad alot of speed, enough to pass sammy then pull back again and i hit all the clipping points .

round#4 video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhegZ_FXoxA


im not trying to be a poorsport because i know that i did pretty damn good against some of the top drifters and they know it also,it was some good drifting i wasnt happy with it but like you said earlier ,whats done is done and lets move on,cool. i just needed to give my reason for my actions i might have not chosen the right ones and should have been more professional about it but hey. so anyway as you said in your post that i would probably say that i didnt want that licence anyway, your wrong.i felt that i earned that licenced by qualifying #1 on sunday and i think i should get it.as adrifter yourself you should know how important that is. i spend alot of time and money to be at every drift event. shippingmy car from another island hotel rental car etc,every single event cost money and i do it because i love drifting ,i sponsor my self with my hard earned money and will continue by shipping my car to the us and competting with the pro drivers.whatever you deside on giving me my license or not ill just have to wait and see.if you want to get in touch with me my email is krisf@maui.net

Ron Freitas

Your repeating the same thing, over, and over, and over. If you can consolidate your thoughts into one solid post and how you would have done it different that'd be great. You seem to really be failing to understand the difference between the two situations that occured here.

Your pass and Sammy's pass:
Main cause was the LEAD CAR making a HUGE MISTAKE.

Black coupe's pass:
Main cause was black coupe FORCING A PASS. It also doesnt help the black car when he SPUN OUT on his lead run.

In the video this is clear as day, and why we cut you and sammy slack on the situation.

So what part of what I just said do you disagree with so much, please explain that to me as I'm failing to understand what exactly you are disagreeing with on those IMO facts that stand by the video posted. As someone who has judged a lot this is not the black and white sport everyone thinks it is and not every scenario for us we have to make a call on is cut and dry clearcut as much as I wish it was. I think the only runs all weekend that I didnt have to analyze a lot were solo runs with a spin, where I was just able to write a big 0 on the score sheet.

[k1drift]

Not really, the judges last year allowed a lot of things to happen that will not happen this year. Also Sammy's pass was only due to you pretty much stopping with 3 wheels off course from where I was. Again goes to the whole just because the lead car falls off a cliff we cant expect the follow car to.


buddy, 3 wheels off the track coarse your dreamin, you obviously didnt look at the video i posted,watch the video before you make claims that you cant back up. only my left front tire hit the cone when i locked my brakes because i didnt want to slide into sammy we went over this already.
and you say he was e bracking,right,open the round 3 video to full screen you can see clearly he was just driving around me.you claim you wernt yelling at anyone at the event,sure you were just super nice,right everything i say your just going to just deny it so why go over and over its not going to change anything,and im fine with it atleast i got to say my side of the story ,cause from what i read from your post is that it was pretty cut and dry that i was tooken out by the 2nd round i dont think so,is that why we went 6 rounds.atleast now everyone can see for them selves .
leave it at that and when i come to the mainland in 2 months we can battle up together . with my own car s14rb25det 500 hp ,it definetly would have been a diffrent story if i had driven my own car instead of my friends silver s13 .got any thing else to say call me up (808)757-3668.

[mikespeed95]

Did you read anythign I wrote?

1) I can't see all the videos for some reason...they just sit there trying to load but wont.

2) I've already stated that I don't remember chronological order of the runs very well, so sue me 5 days later.

3) What are you trying to prove here?

4) I never said I was captain freindly all weekend. I was extremely frustrated with the situation we (NOPI) were put into with the event, it was all okay in the end but I had ZERO interaction with anyone after tandem started except a drivers meeting IIRC and shane oliberos talked to us, and I think black coupe guy caused a ruckus, and his freind with a camera acted like I was hiding a instant replay system in the bed of the truck we were juding from, and left when I asked if he'd like to film for us so we could have replays, then complained at us for not using them.

Heres where I'm at, and about all that is relevant here:

What is unfair about you going off course and being passed?

What is unfair about saying no passing then giving someone a loss for spinning one run and forcing a dirty pass on the second?

What is unfair about allowing a pass after a complete 100-0 run when the lead car goes impossibly wide off the line and the follow car passes due to the sheer distance saved by staying on line?

Congrats on having a 500hp RB, that is relevant to the conversation how?

And sorry dude but I'm not going to call you. Sorry.

[Admin]

Come on guys it's over, what's done is done. We learned to accept the umpire's calls in grade school playing baseball, whether we agreed with them or not. That's just a part of competing.

For the fans that went to watch, they got a great show. For everyone else, they missed a great show. Let's focus our energy on making the next show even better. :rolleyes:

[mikespeed95]

Sorry if I'm causing drama, I just read a lot of bent-out-of-shapeness and a lot of assumptions being made, but I do not think it is fair to not be honest with people so thats why I posted.

Thanks again everyoen who came out, everyone who volunteered their time to help make this event, and everyone who drove.

[v-empire]

confusion? lol

i m sorry i didnt get to meet any of you this time, and didnt make the trip, but from what i heard from the crew and Sam, you guys rock!

regardless of the results, Sam Tiger Racing, and myself would like to thanks all those who participate, made this event happened, and showed us how Hawaii takes care of business!!

they enjoyed their stay there and hospitality was great! they couldn't not ask for a better time.

Hawaiian drifters are awesome and congrats to those that did well.

give us a shout out when you come down to the east coast!

We owe you guys a warm welcome when you come down, ATL southern slide style! :)

mahalo (correct?)

Dave
Tiger Racing Manager

[nismo 420sx]

thanks to all the people that put on the event i had more run time then expected..i was really bummed when i found out i made top eight but never had a rollcage or a fire suit to compete in the tandem but i never thought i wouldv'e made it that far with a stock ka motor..next time i'll be ready to compete.. sidewaysupremacy/south slide garage