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dirt racer
06-19-2008, 10:40 AM
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Lack of city stockpiling permit stalls work on project in Kalaeloa

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By Gordon Y.K. Pang
Advertiser West O'ahu Writer

The company tasked with putting up a racetrack on Department of Hawaiian Home Lands property in Kalaeloa has been slapped with a violation notice for stockpiling nearly 35,000 cubic yards of dirt on the 35-acre site without a permit.
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But leaders of Save Oahu's Race Tracks LLC say they intend to avoid the city fines by obtaining stockpiling and grading permits soon.

Meanwhile, an official at DHHL said SORT LLC was granted a one-year extension to build and operate a temporary racetrack on the site.

The original four partners of the nonprofit SORT have split over a bitter dispute between factions headed by the Grace and Souza families. DHHL has recognized the Graces' newly formed SORT LLC as the "point of contact" and "responsible party" for the racetrack project, but asked that the racing community work out its differences.

Save O'ahu's Race Tracks was formed as a nonprofit corporation in March 2006 with Evelyn Souza listed as the "agent" and chairwoman for the "racing organization." Business registration documents list the officers as Evelyn Souza, George Grace III, Franklin Souza and Jeanette Grace.

The city initially issued a Notice of Violation against SORT LLC on May 14 and gave the company until last Friday to comply or face not just a $1,000 fine for stockpiling without a permit, but an additional $1,000 a day "until corrective action is completed."

City Planning and Permitting Director Henry Eng confirmed that an extension was being granted to SORT LLC. Eng, in an e-mail, said the company had "come in with a stockpiling plan which was not acceptable because it was not prepared and stamped by a registered professional engineer. Another plan has not been submitted."

George Grace III, who along with wife Jeanette are the principles of SORT LCC, said he was told to submit a stockpiling and grading permit together.

Grace said the delay in obtaining a stockpiling permit is not the fault of track organizers but the result of miscommunication and confusion among the agencies.

DHHL officials first asked SORT to obtain permits last year but Grace said he was told by city planning officials that DHHL properties were exempt from needing to obtain permits for stockpiling, grading and related activity.

Later, however, after complaints about the dirt reached the Hawaii Community Development Authority, which oversees development in Kalaeloa, DHHL ordered SORT to go back to the city and ask for permits.

DHHL spokesman Lloyd Yonenaka said his agency was informed that SORT was bringing dirt and other materials to build a racetrack.

"However, when we realized the volume of dirt, we sent them a letter telling them to stop and to seek a stockpiling permit from the city," Yonenaka said.

DHHL is also aware of the violation notice.

"As we expect of all of our lessees, we expect they will comply with the laws of the city and county," Yonenaka said.

Grace said without the stockpiling permit, work on the project has stopped.

"We can cut grass, we can bring equipment onto the property, we can pound pegs, survey," he said. "We just can't do anything until (we) get that permit in."

The Souzas have questioned the amount of dirt the Graces have placed on the property, but George Grace said what's there now isn't enough for what SORT LLC has planned.

"We need like 38,000 cubic yards ... to do the motocross section and the dirt oval track," he said.

The DHHL's Yonenaka said the Hawaiian Homes Commission, in May, gave SORT LLC a one-year renewal on the current lease.

Reach Gordon Y.K. Pang at gpang@honoluluadvertiser.com.

dirt racer
06-19-2008, 10:43 AM
Lack of city stockpiling permit stalls work on project in Kalaeloa


That's funny, Jr. said he had all the permits....:confused:

noshibai
06-19-2008, 03:35 PM
That's funny, Jr. said he had all the permits....:confused:

The DHHL's Yonenaka said the Hawaiian Homes Commission, in May, gave SORT LLC a one-year renewal on the current lease.

That's funny, Les said the lease would not be renewed....:confused:

dirt racer
06-19-2008, 05:01 PM
That's funny, Les said the lease would not be renewed....:confused:

Quote please...

hadenough
06-19-2008, 05:21 PM
That's funny, Les said the lease would not be renewed....:confused:

les said the lease will expire at the end of june. anyway george never got the full report on the dirt from royal so dhhl would not let george off the place and be left holding the bag. if you followed the blog you would know. its a nobrainer.

dirt racer
06-19-2008, 09:49 PM
Awwwrightttttttttttttttttt day 15 is it ???? that hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm had a My thread as a response to his count on "Thee Other Sides" website,,,,, Hmmmmmmmmmm ...was that count WRONG ????? So far I think So...



Xtensions are in place,,, The Permitts will Be,,,,,, &&&&&&&&&&&&& Guess what,,,,???? Its killing Ya Huh...

Well I guess that's proof that it's not only Jr (but also his supporters) who can't read.

Who was lying again?

Who was it that said they had the permits when the reporter clearly says they don't?

Who was it that said (and also in the article) that there wasn't going to be any fines, when the reporter clearly states otherwise?

I guess if you're really dumb enough to believe what Jr says - that he's gonna get the permits before the (30 day) extension is up, yes that's killing me (with laughter).

BTW, there's only 24 days left on the 30 day extension. Sooooooooooo, you can still help by hauling out all the shit. Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, as an alternative you could just give Jr $1,000 per day. The countdown is still on baby. :D

dirt racer
06-19-2008, 10:09 PM
Looks to me that it is all good.... Jr has told me this way back... That thee Exemption was in existence... You see DHHL changed stance and directed to go and get it(the Permitt),,,After discovery..

Xtensions are there,,,, The Permitts will be,,,,,,,,, THennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn da building will start,,,,,

Yes I surely do believe he told you DHHL was exempt. Too bad that's not true. If DHHL were exempt, there wouldn't have been a "Notice of Violation" issued in the first place now would there?

And if you were to venture out of your little make believe world and call DPP, you would find out that allowing FOR 1 30 DAY EXTENSION IS STANDARD PROCEDURE! lol

You might also want to ask how long it takes to get permits. It seems you and Jr seem to think it will only take 24 days. I think you're looking at 1yr. Of course you'll have to submit a proper application first (although Jr. hasn't been able to accomplish this small first step in the past 11 months lol).

Soooooooooo, it's great news that Jr. got that 1 yr extension on the lease. Now he can pay rent whilst racking up those $1,000 per day fines waiting for the permits he won't get. Too bad he ran Grucci off or they would be paying the rent for him. Such brilliance! :eek:

punishum
06-19-2008, 10:24 PM
I saw this movie and it was called "The Magnificent Seven". Many of you are probably familiar with that. Basic theme, a small group of Good Guys against a group of Ripper Offers, BS Bastards, SCUM . . . Like Greedy Land Band Barrons, Cattle Thieves, Snake Oil / Used Car / Used Bike Salesmen . . . SCUM.

Well the point is a line from the Movie goes like this, a "Man Jumped out of a 15 Story Office building and someone asked him "How's It Going?" the Jumper replied, "So Far So Good."

SAME OLE Bull Frakken SHIT, jus a different Day and Group.

Y'all better start helping Jr take out them dirt, "BOY" or help him pay them fines cause, "So Far So Good." Till the extension is OVER and the Notes Come Due. :D :D :D :D :D

This is SO Far from being OVER and "IT" AIN'T gonna be any Happy Ending, Well, not at least for SORT, LLC and OMAC . . . loses again. Better get another Car Show going . . . . LOL

dirt racer
06-19-2008, 11:38 PM
SAME OLE Bull Frakken SHIT, jus a different Day and Group.


Same group, different leader (at least the last one could read based on his post as "hard racer").

dirt racer
06-20-2008, 10:44 AM
Crap like what was printed in that newspaper does NOTHING to help our community to move forward...it focuses on the negatives instead of the positives, and it keeps dredging up crap that noone but a few people really care about.

You are mixed up. That "crap" as you call it is the truth (excepting Jr's usual bullshit quotes). The truth is what the racing community needs to hear. Your group likes to try and control all the information put forth. That way you can make up any bullshit story you want (like the new "World Class Facility" at Parcel 9 story for example). Too bad for you.

punishum
07-02-2008, 08:48 PM
Well, another "HARD Fact" is now on the table and the list of "NEED 2 DO" things on that list for P 24 has been added and acknowledged by the Chair.

And HRS 343 is now "REQUIRED" to be done as well.

That was already a known fact when filing for the permits.

And isn't the extension on the "NOV" almost up as well?

Mud Packer
07-04-2008, 01:09 PM
Well, another "HARD Fact" is now on the table and the list of "NEED 2 DO" things on that list for P 24 has been added and acknowledged by the Chair.

And HRS 343 is now "REQUIRED" to be done as well.

That was already a known fact when filing for the permits.

And isn't the extension on the "NOV" almost up as well?
I think that OMAC, and who ever else involved, should just give it up, throw in the towel, what ever. Save yourselves the embarrassment. You guys talk about hurdles, there are hurdles; before the mountain.