OMAC HCDA Meeting Video

[dirt racer]

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[dirt racer]

Well Mike & JR, it's about time you guy's came clean and let all the racer's/supporters know that there WILL NOT BE a drag strip and road course. So I guess EVERYBODY will be racing in the dirt?


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[LJW]

Now if that ain't lyin', I dont know what is!

[punishum]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

See, the guys from Maui are hoping we don't get a track here ( On Oahu ) because they are sort of benefiting from the desperate racers here . . . . on Oahu.

The Super Ferry / NAPA event last month, NAPA had spent a few thousand $ $ $ $ on radio ads to attract some 20 something cars and 4 bikes from Oahu to go to Maui.

As any sponsor will attest, that is no "Return on Investment".

As for Oahu racers I was told for this one guy, his wife and their van had costed them over $400 to go to Maui for the weekend last month. "NOT" including hotel costs yet. How many will be able to afford to do that . . . Regularly ? ? ?

Another racer going next week is spending $600 for 3 people and a car.


That yielded "NO" exposure for the sponsors "AND" according to stats from Mr. Jokeland, 160,000 users utilized the former Hawaii Raceway "ANNUALLY". So what about the rest of the racers?

Also the red dirt from the cane fields right there causes major upkeep "REGULARLY" or something bad will happen to your motor.

That is a lot of racers and spectators and "VOTERS" that can make a difference so we can get back a "REAL" track and politicians who will support motorsports as a hobby. And our political leaders not depend on "FLUKE" UH seasons like they had for the first time last year in let's see . . . . "EVER" and probably "NEVER" again as the sports backbone of Hawaii.

But Mr. Grace has been kind enough to step in and help out the displaced Oahu drag racers.

Who says there is no Santy Clause :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[TooDeep]

Ho brah, das one ugly couple. Look like two boils.

[punishum]

No, No, Mr. Kitchens is WRONG again ! !

The clips are complete and unedited as with "ALL" news clips. It was in their OWN words.

"DON'T Pay ATTENTION to the MAN Behind the CURTAIN . . . OMAC is the GREAT OZZZzzzzzz ! ! ! ":D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek:

As Uncle Franklin said in one of the next clips, They ( OMAC ) is lying to one of you ( The Hawaiian Civic Clubs or the Racers. ) As we will show you the "WHOLE" story, they are telling tall tales to "EVERYBODY" :mad: :mad: :mad:

[dirt racer]

Yeah. I reacted...but you know what...after I took a breather for a second, I realized that it really wasn't worth it. And that you are going to believe some chopped-up video over my words anyday, because you're just like the rest of those idiots.

The idiots are the ones that believe YOU! The camera don't lie retard. lol

[punishum]

The idiots are the ones that believe YOU! The camera don't lie retard. lol

You know I have been elected to my neighborhood board for 10 years already and let me tell you, that was the most
"AMAZING" presentation I ever saw. Really guys, amazing. If I ever run for political office, I want you guys to be the Spin Doctor Team to run my campaign. You guys are truly, a Work of Art.

But when THE hard questions came it revealed that your traffic study were you two guys sitting in front of P24 "COUNTING Cars" ! ! ! You never called the Coast Guard, etc. etc. etc.

UNreal ! ! ! EIS . . . you don't need one. Your clips Mr. Kitchens are coming right up, next :D :D

And for you morons that can't believe that is what they said, Hell you believed the frozen suit was a YETI, and you believed the Jokester. Keep believing that Santy Clause will be bringing you a track and a $10,000 Christmas Day event and that the P24 track will be operating by February 2009.

And you all killed the bills that could have saved HRP by actually sending in the outlandish negative testimonies or just as bad, sitting by and did "NOTHING". So yeah, I guess you morons are gullible enough to believe everything "BUT" the T-R-U-T-H . . . .

[dirt racer]

yea that first comment cut off a little too quickly to not have it obviously taken out of context.. im not really for or against the project but that clip has obviously been creatively edited..

Hey you're pretty sharp to catch that Bill. So whatever happened to the Bigfoot they found? Was that real, or do you still not know?

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[punishum]

Hey you're pretty sharp to catch that Bill. So whatever happened to the Bigfoot they found? Was that real, or do you still not know?

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/bigfoot.jpg

Yeah, I hate when that happens. I only like them "REAL" Bigfeets, not the "FAKE" ones.

[punishum]

Actually, MIKE, what is creative editing is your posts. As you know there are a lot of EYES checking out these posts by the same important people that make up the decisions.

I have NOTHING to hide, but you do :p :p

All I do is show what was said and done, no creative editing. If I could do that magical hocus pocus, I'd be working for Lucas at ILM.

But you Mr. Kitchens have a "BRIGHT" future in Hawaii politics. Make the most of that opportunity. Be smart for once in your young life and do the right thing.

[dirt racer]

I look at it this way... P9 supports paved racing but could not promise a dirt oval. P24 promises a dirt oval but can not promise paved racing. The 2 projects can co-exists and support different venues, then everyone is happy.

According to Mr. Kitchens, there's "never been a question". It's always been a dirt oval design at P9. It was all just a big personal vendetta against Mike Oakland. You all should really try to get your stories straight. lol

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[dirt racer]

Parcel 9 -

Since this hair brained scheme has raised it's ugly head again, let's take a look at why Parcel 9 will never happen.

1. Hawaiian Homelands handing over it's land would be just about the worst political move (and the last political move) anyone in Hawaii could ever try. The Department's commercial properties generate cash, which is what they need to build homes with. They have plenty of residential land in Kapolei anyway, and are not interested in doing any land swaps.

2. The FAA would never allow a public raceway facility that close to an operational airport. Double that for an airport with a military presence. No approvals have been granted according to the Kalaeloa airport director, regardless of what anyone else says. If there are approvals from FAA for this design, please scan the docs and post them.

[Paradise Racer]

Tracy/Les -
I am disappointed that you guys didn't post up the whole meeting. As we always told you, Tracy, you had talent in what you do. However, you choose to use it with bad intentions. Too bad.

You have the whole meeting on tape. Go ahead and post the whole thing up. Put it on YouTube. I'm sure that there are alot of others out there that would agree and would love to watch it.

Don't you want the public to see your leaders, Frank and Evelyn, in action? Don't you want the public to see how they had fought for the racers and the racing community to get a race track for them?

[Paradise Racer]

Your little video clip clearly shows you're taking parts of the meeting out of context. Let's see....you start with Chris and totally cut off what was said before and after that statement, then you focus on Micah Kane. But if you listen right, he states "at this point in time there is no Phase II makai of their current development." But you fail to show what was being said that led up to that statement. He also states "at this time, the department and commission at this time is not authorizing...." And " ...at no point will they be able to go makai of their current Phase I without the commission's approval or the department's approval..."

You need to post up what the discussion was at that time that Micah made that statement and what was discussed afterwards. Totally irrevelant to what you're trying to make it into. Don't be chicken shit and try to twist what he's saying too. Tracy, I thought more of you. I guess your whole motive of taping the meeting was to edit it into what you want it to show.

So, do what's right for the community and post up the un-edited version of the HCDA meeting.

[LJW]

Your little video clip clearly shows you're taking parts of the meeting out of context. Let's see....you start with Chris and totally cut off what was said before and after that statement, then you focus on Micah Kane. But if you listen right, he states "at this point in time there is no Phase II makai of their current development." But you fail to show what was being said that led up to that statement. He also states "at this time, the department and commission at this time is not authorizing...." And " ...at no point will they be able to go makai of their current Phase I without the commission's approval or the department's approval..."

You need to post up what the discussion was at that time that Micah made that statement and what was discussed afterwards. Totally irrevelant to what you're trying to make it into. Don't be chicken shit and try to twist what he's saying too. Tracy, I thought more of you. I guess your whole motive of taping the meeting was to edit it into what you want it to show.

So, do what's right for the community and post up the un-edited version of the HCDA meeting.

Well, why don't you tell us what happened at the meeting then? Instead of having Kitchens bullshit everybody. You know what, we'll wait till it comes out on Olelo; hope you dont accuse them for creative editing. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't at the meeting, but I heard what I heard.

[dirt racer]

Tracy/Les -
I am disappointed that you guys didn't post up the whole meeting. As we always told you, Tracy, you had talent in what you do. However, you choose to use it with bad intentions. Too bad.

You have the whole meeting on tape. Go ahead and post the whole thing up. Put it on YouTube. I'm sure that there are alot of others out there that would agree and would love to watch it.

Don't you want the public to see your leaders, Frank and Evelyn, in action? Don't you want the public to see how they had fought for the racers and the racing community to get a race track for them?

The whole meeting will be on Olelo. Franklin and Evelyn are the ones that paid Olelo to come out and tape it. So I don't think they're really afraid to have anything aired. Seems like it's your side that doesn't want the meeting out in public. And don't worry, Tracy is working on more video clips to upload. Uploading the whole 3 hour meeting online would not be practical. But there are many, many more instances of your group stating that there would not be a drag strip and why - because of the cultural site discoveries back in April. Everyone involved has known about the cultural site situation since then. That's why we've said it was dishonest of your group to be promoting your diagram:

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when you've KNOWN all along that there's no way it would be allowed to be built.

And what a different story told to HCDA! You all hardly mentioned phase 2, other than that the plans were scrapped. You sure did like to trumpet ALL THE SUPPORT LETTERS and petition signatures you got from the racers though! Which track layout did THEY think they were getting?

This is the track layout that was proposed at the meeting:

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When Mr. Kane said the phase 2 development makai of the phase 1 development would not be allowed, the reason was the cultural sites. YOU ALL KNOW FOR A FACT you won't be able to build on that side because of the archaeological site discoveries THERE.

From the archaeologists report:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/archaeologicalsites1.jpg

[punishum]

Like when asked about the cultural sites,

1 ) OMAC clearly states YOUR GROUPS interpretation is just that. You read it and don't agree with it.

2 ) Or your traffic study was 2 guys with a stop watch counting cars.

3 ) Or contacting the Coast Guard numerous occasions was really calling once and hanging up when someone answered the phone.

4 ) Or you refilled for the "Stockpiling" permit the day before the HCDA meeting and then getting the application denied AGAIN for the 4th time even with an engineers stamp?

6 ) Etc., Etc., Etc.

You mean stuff Li' Dat ?

Out of context ? Like Messer saying You Guys won't operate after sundown and then Jr. saying You Guys will run events at night ? Contradictory statements Li' Dat ?

The whole meeting was Li' Dat. Wait til you Guys have to go before the area NHBs and they will actually vote on You Guys for support or NON Support.

You know insulting people political leaders or their cabinet appointees in the past FREQUENTLY as you now are learning was not such a Good Idea was it? But then again Hindsight is always 20/20.

Out of context is impossible with you guys as every time you open your collective mouths you ALWAYS insert each others feet into each others mouths.

You did it and said it in a public forum before a STATE board. All I did was hit the record button and made it available for ALL to see.

No one put the words into anyones mouths. Y'all did that one on your own.

All Mr. Kane stated prior to that clip was the same thing I said, AMAZING presentation and If I played more of it he also praised Y'all working with the civic clubs.

But aside from the HCDA meeting or meetings with the Hawaiian Civic Clubs you guys keep saying the CULTURAL Sites are Insignificant. Now that wouldn't be considered "Working with the Hawaiian Civic Clubs" now would that? More like being . . . . Uhm, Two Faced :confused: :confused:

Maybe if you were more consistent in YOUR Groups message instead of multiple game-plans before various groups then YOU would not put yourselves into this mess YOU created Now, would YOU . . . . :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[punishum]

Your little video clip clearly shows you're taking parts of the meeting out of context. Let's see....you start with Chris and totally cut off what was said before and after that statement, then you focus on Micah Kane. But if you listen right, he states "at this point in time there is no Phase II makai of their current development." But you fail to show what was being said that led up to that statement. He also states "at this time, the department and commission at this time is not authorizing...." And " ...at no point will they be able to go makai of their current Phase I without the commission's approval or the department's approval..."

You need to post up what the discussion was at that time that Micah made that statement and what was discussed afterwards. Totally irrevelant to what you're trying to make it into. Don't be chicken shit and try to twist what he's saying too. Tracy, I thought more of you. I guess your whole motive of taping the meeting was to edit it into what you want it to show.

So, do what's right for the community and post up the un-edited version of the HCDA meeting.

There is "NO" Phase "2". All surrounding land BEYOND the PRESENTLY graded area are Historic Sites. That is WHY you guys were TOLD to go speak to the civic clubs to REASSURE them that YOU GUYS will not DISTURB those sites. Correct? But you guys keep saying other wise.

What you also failed to address is near the entrance of the graded area is a MASSIVE sink hole where it is believed to contain many IWI that you guys are planning on filling in, correct?

Congratulations on getting the Horse ranch to relocate, but now what?

And as you can see Jr. picked up the microphone and said quote," We NO MORE ROOM for the DRAG RACERS . . " Completes his saying you guys going fundraise and then he puts the mic down. Did those words not come out of his mouth? There was to Saturday Night Kung-Fu Theatre action of words not syncing to the lips action going on there and as Mr. Kane ended his statement QUOTE, " I just wanted to make that CLEAR." IN regards to NO Phase 2.

Also not clear in your diagrams is the NUMEROUS Bunkers on site. DHHL again "DID NOT" give you guys "APPROVAL" to "REMOVE THESE BUNKERS".

You guys have a problem of LISTENING and ALWYAS trying to BREAK the Rules all the time.

NO permits of ANY TYPE have been filed for other than the 4 times "DENIED" stockpiling APPLICATION. How You gonna get started?

And a February deadline of being up and running had been stated.

What You Gonna do? Call "GHOST Busters" :confused: :confused:

[dirt racer]

There was to Saturday Night Kung-Fu Theatre action

Actually, "Kung-Fu Theatre" is more believable than that bullshit presentation. Lots of pretty pictures, bells and whistles, but NO substance. Smoke and mirrors. Hey, that sounds just like PARCEL 9! Well as it should - OMAC is the same group that was working on parcel 9! (Only half the handful of members they had have now quit).

1. Track Design - NO Drag Strip or 1.07 mile Road Course as promised.

2. Progress (or lack thereof)

Permits - No permit applications had been accepted. Applications for the stockpiling permit were rejected 3 times. The other permit applications had not even been presented (and they WILL need many).

Investors - "We're looking for a White Knight" - Good one MK!

Estimated Completion Date - Feb 2009, TOTAL HOGWASH! Not to worry, we're used to hearing these completion dates come and go. P9 was supposed to be completed 3 years ago (in 2005). :eek:

[dirt racer]

Also not clear in your diagrams is the NUMEROUS Bunkers on site. DHHL again "DID NOT" give you guys "APPROVAL" to "REMOVE THESE BUNKERS".


Awe come on now, watching the crackheads "trying" to knock down those bunkers is gonna be the only good thing about P24. :D

P.S. Make sure and get the Demo permit first. :rolleyes:

[Paradise Racer]

I wasn't at the meeting, but I heard what I heard. Wasn't at the meeting....hear what you heard....yes, just as I expected. And you heard this from who? Right.....from the ones that don't want to see this happen. Good information you got.

[Paradise Racer]

The whole meeting will be on Olelo. Franklin and Evelyn are the ones that paid Olelo to come out and tape it. So I don't think they're really afraid to have anything aired. If anything, this is the one thing that they did right. You see, this works both ways too. They've tried to remain silent on the forums....SORT OF....in an non-noticible way....so, now it can be for everyone's viewing to see them in action.

[Paradise Racer]

Tracy is working on more video clips to upload. Uploading the whole 3 hour meeting online would not be practical.

You mean he's taking more video clips and editing it to take more out of context. He doesn't have to post the whole 3 hour meeting. Quite pointless. He should put up the presentation part, unedited. That shouldn't take much time or effort on his part. Put his efforts in a more constructive way. I'm sure that all that editing was very time consuming.

Put the presentation up Tracy.

[Paradise Racer]

Seems like it's your side that doesn't want the meeting out in public.

I beg to differ..... I've been posting and saying that the whole thing should be posted up unedited. Only you and your little group have been saying that we don't want it aired.

Do me a favor, go and help Tracy to get it uploaded and posted for those that couldn't come to the meeting. And when you find out when it will be aired on Olelo, we want to know. We want to see if there is any difference in what you guys recorded and what they recorded.

[Paradise Racer]

All in all....I don't want to make this a pissing match.

The best thing is for everyone to come to the next Kapolei Neighborhood Board meeting:

Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Kapolei High School
7:00 pm

The same presentation will be presented and there will be Q & A.

If anyone out there is concerned with what's going on, I advise them to make the time and try to attend.

[hadenough]

Wasn't at the meeting....hear what you heard....yes, just as I expected. And you heard this from who? Right.....from the ones that don't want to see this happen. Good information you got. he heard from it from me. the souzas want you to build the track cause you dont have the money to do it. thats why you need the 2 phase so more dirt can be put on the land and then the money machine can roll again. the souzas concern is you are lying to the racers again .build the track whats stopping you. the people will see the hcda meeting on olelo and judge for thier self. we all know the amount of land there is.its to small for any thing except a parking lot and a dirt track..... if you had the money you wouldnt be makinga fund raiser to send the drag cars to out side island. BUILD THE TRACK and stop the crap i know its part of your business.

[Paradise Racer]

he heard from it from me. the souzas want you to build the track cause you dont have the money to do it. thats why you need the 2 phase so more dirt can be put on the land and then the money machine can roll again. the souzas concern is you are lying to the racers again .build the track whats stopping you. the people will see the hcda meeting on olelo and judge for thier self. we all know the amount of land there is.its to small for any thing except a parking lot and a dirt track..... if you had the money you wouldnt be makinga fund raiser to send the drag cars to out side island. BUILD THE TRACK and stop the crap i know its part of your business.

Do you actually think before you post and do you read what you post before you hit the submit button? You must be one of those confused people that looked at Tracy's video and believed what you think you heard. Sucker...

[dirt racer]

Do you actually think before you post and do you read what you post before you hit the submit button? You must be one of those confused people that looked at Tracy's video and believed what you think you heard. Sucker...

What did he really hear?

[hadenough]

Do you actually think before you post and do you read what you post before you hit the submit button? You must be one of those confused people that looked at Tracy's video and believed what you think you heard. Sucker...

sucker?you are the suckers who suck shit for a living and got the racers worked up again you and your humble lying geoirgie boy and i heard what i heard and i saw what i saw. no need for thinking its a no brainer. its not my fault you dont understand the post.at least i can post.

[Paradise Racer]

sucker?you are the suckers who suck shit for a living and got the racers worked up again you and your humble lying geoirgie boy and i heard what i heard and i saw what i saw. no need for thinking its a no brainer. its not my fault you dont understand the post.at least i can post.

Don't hate because I am successful in the shit business. It's that business that's helping to support the costs for our project. And what racers are you referring to? The ones that I've spoken to know what's going on and say that support what needs to be done and to go do it. You're not talking about Leo are you? And as for your post, I understand that you are gullable and must be one of the sheep that follow your sheep herder. That's ok....it's still fun to watch you folks.

[punishum]

All in all....I don't want to make this a pissing match.

The best thing is for everyone to come to the next Kapolei Neighborhood Board meeting:

Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Kapolei High School
7:00 pm

The same presentation will be presented and there will be Q & A.

If anyone out there is concerned with what's going on, I advise them to make the time and try to attend.

Hey Jeanette . . . . I bet you it "WON'T" be the same presentation

:confused: :confused:

Because we have the September 3, 2008 HCDA presentation on tapes

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It will be GREAT watching you guys try and say one thing to appease one grouup while some of the racers will be there "WHILE" people from DHHL will be at this meeting and probably the leaders from the Hawaiian Civic Clubs too which you guys told a different story too.

Full House of everybody in attendance and the NHB will "VOTE" on the P 24 project which the city listens too.

So a "NO" vote from "ANY" NHB will just be another "BAD" step in the presently "WRONG" direction of "MANY" wrong steps.

And remember NHB board chair was in attendance at the HCDA meeting.

You backed yourselves into a major corner. Member? I told you guys to study the game of chess.

Now you "PUT" yourselves into a "CHECKMATE" situation.

[dirt racer]

Now if that ain't lyin', I dont know what is!

No, no, no. It was all just taken out of context. You see the context is a meeting before a State Board by a racetrack developer
(or should I say "wannabe" racetrack developer).

So when the developer says "we don't have the space to support the drag racers".

What he really means is "we don't have the space to support the drag racers".

Big difference when put into context. :rolleyes:

[dirt racer]

Don't hate because I am successful in the shit business. It's that business that's helping to support the costs for our project.

Yeah, I read about "Paradise Lua" in "Pacific Business News". It said you recently had a $47,000 IRS lien placed against the company. Here's some free advice on how to be even MORE successful, PAY YOUR DAMN TAXES! :eek:

[LJW]

Don't hate because I am successful in the shit business. It's that business that's helping to support the costs for our project. And what racers are you referring to? The ones that I've spoken to know what's going on and say that support what needs to be done and to go do it. You're not talking about Leo are you? And as for your post, I understand that you are gullable and must be one of the sheep that follow your sheep herder. That's ok....it's still fun to watch you folks.

It's not getting me worked up; I know it's ALL ABOUT THE DIRT and not the RACERS. It's funny watching you guys put on this "SHOW"! You are not racers and never will be. Its too bad; in the beginning WE saw P24 as a possible site for a dirt track; YOU GUYS saw it as a place to make money, on the racers tab.

[dirt racer]

I know it's ALL ABOUT THE DIRT and not the RACERS.

What dirt? You're taking that out of context! :rolleyes:

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[dirt racer]

Maybe that person should work on completing his obligation to the drifters who are still awaiting the event from JANUARY, or will they have to wait for KRP to open?

Hey Rob,

I know you're mentally retarded and all, so it must be kind of hard. But for the record, all 6 of the drift events at the Stadium that were applied for were completed. Including the January 2008 event that had NOPI sanctioning and some pretty intense competition.

What didn't happen was Jr. Boy's Christmas 2007 race with the $10,000 purse. And of course your best buddy's
"World Class Bullshit Facility". Get your facts straight!

[dirt racer]

agreed, the people need to see the "whole video"...
so they can see how "hard" the souza's fought for the track-or maybe thats against it!
she never cared about the other subjects being brought up to them,but come to the track situation she made every effort possible to shut them down-more like a personal vendetta as though they arent the ones in charge-kinda like a friken power trip...if only the people could have seen this in person.

protestors-you call yourselves former racers,past and present, when you presented yourself in front of the board???then act like true racers and get over the damn power trip. sit down relax and open your frikn eyes!!! you made more of a fuss than anything pro...get over it

bryant, kitchens, jr.; keep up the good work...and if the others are just protesting out of spite that they're not "in charge" they should focus that energy on openeing yet another track-what racers on island wouldn't want two venues to choose from???

Tell you what, your post will still be up here in Feb 2009. We'll see if there's a drift track up at P24 like what was promised in the bullshit presentation. You're being spoon fed shit, and can't even see it. Better you open YOUR eyes.

[Humble George]

Hey Jeanette . . . . I bet you it "WON'T" be the same presentation

:confused: :confused:

Same presentation will be presented to the board. Remember 2 of the KNB members are also on the HCDA.


Because we have the September 3, 2008 HCDA presentation on tapes Are you going to put it up for everyone to use as a cross-reference? I'm sure that between now and the 24th you can whip something up.

It will be GREAT watching you guys try and say one thing to appease one grouup while some of the racers will be there "WHILE" people from DHHL will be at this meeting and probably the leaders from the Hawaiian Civic Clubs too which you guys told a different story too.
Much to your disappointment, we have not changed our focus. And we think that it's great if DHHL and the Kapolei Hawaiian Civic Club will be there. After all, they've been in the loop and know what's going on.

[Humble George]

Full House of everybody in attendance and the NHB will "VOTE" on the P 24 project which the city listens too.

I hope we have a full house. That will show just how many people are concerned with the racetrack project and how important this issue is. And FYI, this is an informational presentation, not a voting issue.

And remember NHB board chair was in attendance at the HCDA meeting. Yes, she was and she heard all the great things that was said by the opposition too. And she was the one that is putting our presentation on the agenda. Much to your dismay, she does support a racetrack in Kalaeloa.

You backed yourselves into a major corner. Member? I told you guys to study the game of chess.

Now you "PUT" yourselves into a "CHECKMATE" situation. Sorry Tracy, I don't play games. I'm the real deal.

[Humble George]

No, no, no. It was all just taken out of context. You see the context is a meeting before a State Board by a racetrack developer
(or should I say "wannabe" racetrack developer).

So when the developer says "we don't have the space to support the drag racers".

What he really means is "we don't have the space to support the drag racers".

Big difference when put into context. :rolleyes:

Poor Les, I think that you have selective hearing and have a mental block that refuses to allow you to hear everything that was said at that meeting.

[Humble George]

Yeah, I read about "Paradise Lua" in "Pacific Business News". It said you recently had a $47,000 IRS lien placed against the company. Here's some free advice on how to be even MORE successful, PAY YOUR DAMN TAXES! :eek:

Ha ha ha....don't worry about that. See, my business is alive and kicken and making money. My doors are still open, unlike the meat and baloney store that shut down.

[Humble George]

:rolleyes: It's not getting me worked up; I know it's ALL ABOUT THE DIRT and not the RACERS. It's funny watching you guys put on this "SHOW"! You are not racers and never will be. Its too bad; in the beginning WE saw P24 as a possible site for a dirt track; YOU GUYS saw it as a place to make money, on the racers tab.

Funny Leo, that's the same song the the Souzas are singing. Where does it say that you have to be a racer to build a race track? And since you and the Souzas love to sing the same song over and over, as racers, what have you done to help the racers? Oh wait, I know, you make anonymous calls to different agencies, trying to feed them false information and get them all riled up, and you contact the newspaper, crying that you can't get into the gate, and you hold your own "People's Court" at the HCDA meeting and take your board position to do cross-examination instead of following your board duties and just ask questions and listen to the answers.

And Leo, if I decide to put on a firesuit, helmet and jump into a race car to drive around the track, does that qualify me as a racer? And would you sleep better at night knowing that the developer is also a racer. You had better seek help, cause the elevator definitely isn't going to the top floor.

And let me correct you on your last sentence. What you mean to say is that the Souza's thought that they were going to make money by building a race track.:rolleyes:

[Humble George]

What dirt? You're taking that out of context! :rolleyes:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/100_8332.jpg

Hey Les, that is a beautiful sight to see. That is the material that will be used to build the race track. :eek: :eek: :eek: What a fool.

[Humble George]

Hey Rob,

I know you're mentally retarded and all, so it must be kind of hard. But for the record, all 6 of the drift events at the Stadium that were applied for were completed. Including the January 2008 event that had NOPI sanctioning and some pretty intense competition.

What didn't happen was Jr. Boy's Christmas 2007 race with the $10,000 purse. And of course your best buddy's
"World Class Bullshit Facility". Get your facts straight!

Tell you what, your post will still be up here in Feb 2009. We'll see if there's a drift track up at P24 like what was promised in the bullshit presentation. You're being spoon fed shit, and can't even see it. Better you open YOUR eyes.

What happened Les, did they touch a nerve?

[dirt racer]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/pile-of-money.jpg

Hey Les, that is a beautiful sight to see.

[dirt racer]

What happened Les, did they touch a nerve?

Nope. Look at how many idiots MO had going for how many years? You've got a long way to go to catch up with the master. :rolleyes:

[LJW]

:rolleyes:

Funny Leo, that's the same song the the Souzas are singing. Where does it say that you have to be a racer to build a race track? And since you and the Souzas love to sing the same song over and over, as racers, what have you done to help the racers? Oh wait, I know, you make anonymous calls to different agencies, trying to feed them false information and get them all riled up, and you contact the newspaper, crying that you can't get into the gate, and you hold your own "People's Court" at the HCDA meeting and take your board position to do cross-examination instead of following your board duties and just ask questions and listen to the answers.

And Leo, if I decide to put on a firesuit, helmet and jump into a race car to drive around the track, does that qualify me as a racer? And would you sleep better at night knowing that the developer is also a racer. You had better seek help, cause the elevator definitely isn't going to the top floor.

And let me correct you on your last sentence. What you mean to say is that the Souza's thought that they were going to make money by building a race track.:rolleyes:

For your information, I speak for myself and unlike you, I don't have time to call anybody, I have a life. We don't need to rant on about anything else; How many more years do the racers have to wait to have a place to race?

[hadenough]

:rolleyes:

Funny Leo, that's the same song the the Souzas are singing. Where does it say that you have to be a racer to build a race track? And since you and the Souzas love to sing the same song over and over, as racers, what have you done to help the racers? Oh wait, I know, you make anonymous calls to different agencies, trying to feed them false information and get them all riled up, and you contact the newspaper, crying that you can't get into the gate, and you hold your own "People's Court" at the HCDA meeting and take your board position to do cross-examination instead of following your board duties and just ask questions and listen to the answers.

And Leo, if I decide to put on a firesuit, helmet and jump into a race car to drive around the track, does that qualify me as a racer? And would you sleep better at night knowing that the developer is also a racer. You had better seek help, cause the elevator definitely isn't going to the top floor.

And let me correct you on your last sentence. What you mean to say is that the Souza's thought that they were going to make money by building a race track.:rolleyes:

and let me correct you on the last sentence . you and georgeie-boy had the lease changed from non-profit to a LLC. so who stand to make money? and as far as georgeie-boy putting a helmet and firesuit on thats laughable. but at least he will save money on the pants cause all he need is shorts. don't leo and the souzas sing a good song and it sounds goooooood.and also a developer needs a state of hawaii lic. and a degree in engineering so that cant be georgeie-boy. build the track. you have enough dirt for at least 3 tracks .SO MOVE FORWARD AS YOU SAY and just do it!!!!!!! by the way the hot-dog and boloney store is still in business 30 yrs. now. you should be thanking them. as they say NO FOOD NO CRAP... got to go get a life.

[Humble George]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/pile-of-money.jpg

Isnt that the money the Souzas thought they were going to get by charging the truckers to dump the dirt?:eek:

[Humble George]

How many more years do the racers have to wait to have a place to race? As long as it takes to jump the hurdles and dodge the obstacles that are placed before us. Why? Are you guys getting tired of putting up the opposition?

[Humble George]

and let me correct you on the last sentence . you and georgeie-boy had the lease changed from non-profit to a LLC.

Frankie boy, you had better put your glasses on and take a better look at the copy of the lease you got from DHHL. You need translation?

so who stand to make money? Frankie boy, when are you going to understand that it's not about the money? You gotta get out of the past where you guys used to profit by letting illegal dumping happen.

a developer needs a state of hawaii lic. and a degree in engineering Good thing we got someone with that.

by the way the hot-dog and boloney store is still in business 30 yrs. now Only because you guys had to get out of it and someone else runs it.

got to go get a life Yes, I agree. Don't let me stand in your way. Happy hunting.

[hadenough]

Frankie boy, you had better put your glasses on and take a better look at the copy of the lease you got from DHHL. You need translation?

Frankie boy, when are you going to understand that it's not about the money? You gotta get out of the past where you guys used to profit by letting illegal dumping happen.

Good thing we got someone with that.

Only because you guys had to get out of it and someone else runs it.

Yes, I agree. Don't let me stand in your way. Happy hunting.

if its not about the money why all the dirt. still no facts only twisters. the busniess was given to his son still dont know facts again. georegie boy said he was the developer. another lie. i'll sign out now can't stand all the lies and bullshit. and don't answer if you can't speak facts. get the permit and move on building the track or is that another lie. wait didn't you say 48hrs. permit in hand at the hcda meeting or is that another lie. see what what happens when you people aren't racers!!!!! if you were the track would be built.

[dirt racer]

Isnt that the money the Souzas thought they were going to get by charging the truckers to dump the dirt?:eek:

Yep. Nice of you to give it to John Souza III, Senate President Colleen Hanabusa's husband. Nice of them to help you get the lease too. Nice arrangement. ;)

[dirt racer]

How many more years do the racers have to wait to have a place to race?

Well for a developer to complete a project like this that has all the financing in place and knows what he's doing, it would probably take 2-3 years. For somebody that doesn't have any money and has no idea WTF they're doing (like Jr. Boy for example), it's never gonna get done.

It's been over a year and a half already with no progress. A proper permit application has yet to be submitted.

[punishum]

Well for a developer to complete a project like this that has all the financing in place and knows what he's doing, it would probably take 2-3 years. For somebody that doesn't have any money and has no idea WTF they're doing (like Jr. Boy for example), it's never gonna get done.

It's been over a year and a half already with no progress. A proper permit application has yet to be submitted.

Truth is beautiful, without doubt; but so are lies.
Ralph Waldo Emerson 1803 - 1882

Not like I expect you Neanderthaloid, knuckle draggers to understand this anyway. :D :D