Paradise Cruisers

[LJW]

454 big block. cam, roller rocker. HOOKER long tubes, holley carb, msd iginition.

had it in my chevelle, not ran in 3 years, sat with hood off for 8 months,but carb was covered.anodized silever chrome color.needs a good cleaning.
fule pump is bad, runs when gas is poured in, but dies after.
headers got surface rust and algea on motor, should pressure was rite off.871 blower kit, 8mm drive. belt looks dry rotted, but works.
need this gone. $300 or 500 with trans,not parting out!!

this is a StEaL if you know anything about engines, i just need it gone ,and i have no time to play with it. no lower on price, blower kit alone was like $3grand.
This is a posting in the "Internet Deals" Section and this is ONE clever reply;

"I'm just wondering, an 8 mm belt on an 8-71? Seems kinda small"
I learned a long time ago that if you dont know what you're talking about, s**u. And this guy is a moderator on that site. Thats why they are called cruisers and not racers.

[udrivecrap]

lol... racers are just cruising to rustville right now.

300 is a steal!... here's a 871 blower with a 8mm drive

http://www.alsblowers.com/theblowershop/tbs_350_kit_lge.jpg

SMALL BLOCK CHEVY 8-71 BLOWER KIT
BILLET BLOWER
Available $6138.00 plus GST
This Kit includes a 'Blower Shop' Cast Case Small Rotor 8-71Blower, TBS Polished Blower manifold with backfire valve, TBS Billet 8mm Drive system any ratio, 1 or 2 Vee accessory drive pulley.

[dirt racer]

And this guy is a moderator on that site.

Like the dumb ass moderator that kicked you out? A number of them sent in testimony AGAINST saving their own damn racetrack! Now they wonder why they don't have one. Not the sharpest tools in the shed over there.

[LJW]

Like the dumb ass moderator that kicked you out? A number of them sent in testimony AGAINST saving their own damn racetrack! Now they wonder why they don't have one. Not the sharpest tools in the shed over there.

They dont want a racetrack; none of them race. All they do is talk shit and kiss each others ass. What's sooo funny is when someone post's stuff or replies to someone, it's alway's like "Oh, I hope I didn't offend anyone and if I did, I'm sooooorry"! LOL

[dirt racer]

They dont want a racetrack; none of them race. All they do is talk shit and kiss each others ass. What's sooo funny is when someone post's stuff or replies to someone, it's alway's like "Oh, I hope I didn't offend anyone and if I did, I'm sooooorry"! LOL

Yeah really. Why even post if you don't want to offend someone? :D

[udrivecrap]

its true what they say. the internet IS serious business.. lol.

not talking about anyone in particular.. but some people just take the internet a little too seriously. i don't moderate on PC but i do moderate on HT. it really depends on how a reader is reading any given post. if you are looking for negative tones you will read it that way.

like for example, if i post "f*ck you"... like how i talk in person to friends, people who know me will be like "haha, fricken dave"

if i don't know you and i posted "f*ck you"... you might be like "did he just say f*ck you to me?"... panties all in a bunch and like beef.

in all... posting/blogging/chatting on the internet reveals things about our personalities as does talking to someone in person. you can get a real good idea of how someone's intellect is by reading their posts and reactions. though often times personalites are different from the web and in person.

i know you guys are all reading this and thinking... dam, dave is so smart its not even funny... no wonder he's a super moderator. :D hahahaha

[udrivecrap]

eh.. so what Leo. ready to race this weekend? do you know if they found the guys that bussed up the place? is there a feud going on oberdere?

i raced twice this month but i won't race again for another month. SCCA is tons of fun and is much cheaper than drag racing at the moment..

[Chad89GT]

They dont want a racetrack; none of them race. All they do is talk shit and kiss each others ass. What's sooo funny is when someone post's stuff or replies to someone, it's alway's like "Oh, I hope I didn't offend anyone and if I did, I'm sooooorry"! LOL

It's called respect. If you don't have it for yourself and others you won't understand.

Unlike other web sites that attract drama queens, PCHIH is for adults who want to kick back, relax and shoot the shit with their buddies. We don't have time for pettiness or bickering. If you're looking for drama please look elsewhere. Life is dramatic enough, we don't need it on our forum.

If that doesn't work for you I invite you to delete your membership from the site. But I doubt that will happen since you seem to love us so much you can't help but talk about us :D

[udrivecrap]

^^ lol.. i just wanna know what website attracts drama kings.

[LJW]

It's called respect. If you don't have it for yourself and others you won't understand.

Unlike other web sites that attract drama queens, PCHIH is for adults who want to kick back, relax and shoot the shit with their buddies. We don't have time for pettiness or bickering. If you're looking for drama please look elsewhere. Life is dramatic enough, we don't need it on our forum.

If that doesn't work for you I invite you to delete your membership from the site. But I doubt that will happen since you seem to love us so much you can't help but talk about us :D

Yah, you guy's are real adults alright; YOU have no respect for others; you can have your website. No drop my friends names and we wont have problems.

[Chad89GT]

Yah, you guy's are real adults alright; YOU have no respect for others; you can have your website. No drop my friends names and we wont have problems.

LOL! Why don't you just say "I know you are but what am I?" :p

[LJW]

LOL! Why don't you just say "I know you are but what am I?" :p

HAHAHA! By the way, How's Parcel 9 coming along?

[Chad89GT]

HAHAHA! By the way, How's Parcel 9 coming along?

How's your track plan coming along? Oh wait, you don't have one... :D

[dirt racer]

How's your track plan coming along? Oh wait, you don't have one... :D

The plan to buy HRP is still alive and kicking (unlike Parcel 9). The asking price keeps dropping, and the number of bidders keeps increasing. At some point in time someone will close a deal.

Of course the track never should have been closed in the first place. :mad:

[udrivecrap]

The plan to buy HRP is still alive and kicking (unlike Parcel 9). The asking price keeps dropping, and the number of bidders keeps increasing. At some point in time someone will close a deal.
lol... i'm not gonna hold my breath on that. but do you know what will be there as far as racing venues if this purchase should take place? a drag strip perhaps? :D

Of course the track never should have been closed in the first place. :mad:
buddy... this issue has been discussed and said over and over. yeah, they couldn't complete the INFAMOUS P9 DEALIO... so it would have been nice to have the track open still. agreed.

but what some people don't seem to accept is that is was NOT their choice, it was the choice of the park owners and circumstances surrounding it. i still believe it should have been closed for "repairs" years ago and then force everyone to be on the same page. iron hand rule, my way or the highway, private enterprise.

its like that restaurant in kapolei that closes at 7PM... i'd like it to stay open so i can eat there past 7PM, the food is great, but its not my restaurant and therefore i have no say in the matter.

life is tough... so who wants to be a marshmallow? :D

[dirt racer]

lol... i'm not gonna hold my breath on that. but do you know what will be there as far as racing venues if this purchase should take place? a drag strip perhaps? :D


There are some drag racers working on buying it so there might be one. The lender wants to get rid of it that's for sure. Someone will buy it eventually.


but what some people don't seem to accept is that is was NOT their choice, it was the choice of the park owners and circumstances surrounding it.


It was definitely the choice of the park owners...


"This is a decision made by Hawai'i Raceway Park and was not caused by Campbell Estate," estate spokeswoman Theresia McMurdo said. "We have not asked Hawai'i Raceway Park to leave and in fact we have been extending the lease."



its like that restaurant in kapolei that closes at 7PM... i'd like it to stay open so i can eat there past 7PM, the food is great, but its not my restaurant and therefore i have no say in the matter.


Not exactly. We all have a say as tax paying residents of Honolulu County. We had a say specifically with the resolutions that were introduced. Unfortunately, a number of misguided dumbasses sent in testimony AGAINST saving the track. I've seen stupid people before, but that takes the cake.

[udrivecrap]

you know.. i've never really responded to that Campbell quote. its somewhat misleading. maybe they didn't "ask" HRP to move and they have been extending the lease, however, when the property went up for sale the park owners had to make a decision.. buy the land or close the park. it was caused by the liquidation of the estate, iirc.

and your other statement about having a say as taxpayers. yes we do to a point. not with a restaurant owner and what he does with it. we could complain if there is any violation or non compliance with regulations and ordinances... but we really can't say sh*t about how they run a business.

what you guys were trying to say with the resolutions is that a private facility was not needed and that a public facility would be what we need. it confused people because they didn't understand why. then they found out more about it and still nothing happened. your former friend steered it clear of that as i tried to show you in the other thread.

i would still send in the same testimony i did if the conditions were the same. its ok because its my opinion, as your opinion is ok too. :D

[dirt racer]

you know.. i've never really responded to that Campbell quote. its somewhat misleading. maybe they didn't "ask" HRP to move and they have been extending the lease, however, when the property went up for sale the park owners had to make a decision.. buy the land or close the park. it was caused by the liquidation of the estate, iirc.


Wrong. It was the park owners that made the decision to put the property up for sale. The park owners had the lease with the option to buy. No one else could have leased the property or purchased it. The Campbell spokesperson was perfectly clear about that. Too bad your friend doesn't have the cajones to admit the truth. Lying about it is what killed the tax credits.

[udrivecrap]

wait... the property owner decides to sell. the tenant has the option. if the tenant doesn't want to buy then the PROPERTY owner goes on and sells it.

of course you have to factor in the flip this house thing for $5mill and then Irongate comes along and does practically nothing with it. hmmm... bad timing maybe? its ok, Donald can afford it.

besides, i thought Chang and the Honolulu Advertiser killed the bill... not lying. i can almost hear the exact words something about not being "affiliated" with the buyer... which was true, right?

there is still a for sale sign there, i think.. anyone can buy it now... and what are you waiting for? christmas? lol.. :D

[dirt racer]

wait... the property owner decides to sell. the tenant has the option. if the tenant doesn't want to buy then the PROPERTY owner goes on and sells it.


This tenant had the option to renew the lease or buy the property. How could Campbell not ask them to leave and then sell it to someone else? You're not making any sense. Unless of course you think McMurdo was lying. Want her phone number???



besides, i thought Chang and the Honolulu Advertiser killed the bill... not lying. i can almost hear the exact words something about not being "affiliated" with the buyer... which was true, right?

Hanabusa killed the house bill before the Chang deal was public. She would have killed the Senate bill in conference if it had made it that far. She said Oakland had to answer some questions about why HRP was closing down before he got any tax credits. Oakland said "no comment" on the HRP deal.

The "affiliate" (to HMC) mentioned in the paper was "HMC Irongate Hawaii Raceway Investors". The specific name of the company that purchased HMC in order to get the sale contract that HMC entered into.

[udrivecrap]

This tenant had the option to renew the lease or buy the property. How could Campbell not ask them to leave and then sell it to someone else? You're not making any sense.
i don't remember reading anything about renewing a lease OR buying the property. that quote said "we HAVE been renewing the lease"... past tense.

Unless of course you think McMurdo was lying. Want her phone number???
lol, no. i don't want to annoy her with my questions about nothing.

Hanabusa killed the house bill before the Chang deal was public. She would have killed the Senate bill in conference if it had made it that far. She said Oakland had to answer some questions about why HRP was closing down before he got any tax credits. Oakland said "no comment" on the HRP deal.
this is ironic, you just answered your own question as to what happened to Parcel 9. we previously discussed what happened to saving HRP and the same name showed up. how is this possible?

The "affiliate" (to HMC) mentioned in the paper was "HMC Irongate Hawaii Raceway Investors". The specific name of the company that purchased HMC in order to get the sale contract that HMC entered into.
yeah, and thanks for not posting up that doc with lokahi on it.. hahahaha :D

[dirt racer]

i don't remember reading anything about renewing a lease OR buying the property. that quote said "we HAVE been renewing the lease"... past tense.


The quote also said:

"This is a decision made by Hawai'i Raceway Park and was not caused by Campbell Estate"

Your assertion that the track was closed because Campbell wanted to sell it goes directly against what Campbell was quoted saying to the newspaper. HOW THE FUCK COULD CAMPBELL BE THE ONES DECIDING TO SELL IT IF IT WASN'T THEIR DECISION!!!??? That's the problem you get into when you repeat other people's (MO's) BS.

Didn't read anything about buying the property eh? Better late then never.


The bad blood also is related to the fact that Campbell Estate has said it has a contract to sell the land to an affiliate of Oakland's.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Apr/03/ln/FP604030349.html

[udrivecrap]

The quote also said:

"This is a decision made by Hawai'i Raceway Park and was not caused by Campbell Estate"

Your assertion that the track was closed because Campbell wanted to sell it goes directly against what Campbell was quoted saying to the newspaper. HOW THE FUCK COULD CAMPBELL BE THE ONES DECIDING TO SELL IT IF IT WASN'T THEIR DECISION!!!??? That's the problem you get into when you repeat other people's (MO's) BS.
ok yeah, it said "not caused by Campbell Estate" meaning the CLOSURE decision was made by HRP. Campbell was forced to SELL the property thereby giving HRP an option.. and i didn't read anything about RENEWING a lease at that time. it was said like that so you wouldn't go there and slash all their tires... you'd go slash all Oakland's tires instead. like i said, a little misleading.

Didn't read anything about buying the property eh? Better late then never.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Apr/03/ln/FP604030349.html

i found this in that article...

The bad blood also is related to the fact that Campbell Estate has said it has a contract to sell the land to an affiliate of Oakland's. A Campbell Estate spokesman and Oakland said they are bound by a confidentiality agreement not to name the affiliate or discuss plans for the property.

they did not name the affiliate at the time bound by a confidentiality agreement. this article was in april. Irongate came in when?

[dirt racer]

ok yeah, it said "not caused by Campbell Estate" meaning the CLOSURE decision was made by HRP. Campbell was forced to SELL the property thereby giving HRP an option.. and i didn't read anything about RENEWING a lease at that time. it was said like that so you wouldn't go there and slash all their tires... you'd go slash all Oakland's tires instead. like i said, a little misleading.


Campbell sold the property because HMC wanted to buy it, that's the only reason. They had been extending the lease, why wouldn't they continue to extend the lease? Campbell never said they wouldn't extend the lease. In fact they said they didn't ask HMC to leave, HOW THE FUCK COULD HMC STAY WITHOUT CAMPBELL EXTENDING THE LEASE!!!???

What exactly did they say?

"Oh, you guys don't have to leave but we're not extending the lease, we're selling it. So if you don't want to buy it we might sell it to someone else. But you can stay even if we sell it."

What you're suggesting makes no sense!


they did not name the affiliate at the time bound by a confidentiality agreement. this article was in april. Irongate came in when?

Irongate formed "HMC Irongate" in late 2005. AFTER Oakland already knew DHHL didn't want the deal proposed for P9.

And another thing, why would the landlord be bound by a confidentiality agreement if he wasn't a partner to the deal? Big developers just like to tell him stuff so he knows what's going on???

[udrivecrap]

Campbell sold the property because HMC wanted to buy it, that's the only reason.
wasn't it because of a death and Campbell Estate needed to liquidate? there was a deadline too.

They had been extending the lease, why wouldn't they continue to extend the lease?
they wouldn't if the buyer didn't want it that way. you would have to be involved in the sale to know exactly what was asked and agreed to.

Campbell never said they wouldn't extend the lease. In fact they said they didn't ask HMC to leave, HOW THE FUCK COULD HMC STAY WITHOUT CAMPBELL EXTENDING THE LEASE!!!???
by an agreement with the buyer and seller... sometimes the buyer isn't ready to work on the property right away, so they welcome the tenant to stay on as security or a caretaker...
What exactly did they say?

"Oh, you guys don't have to leave but we're not extending the lease, we're selling it. So if you don't want to buy it we might sell it to someone else. But you can stay even if we sell it."

What you're suggesting makes no sense!
no, it does make sense if you are the buyer and you want someone on the property until you are ready to do something with it. they needed to change the zoning which took time.

Irongate formed "HMC Irongate" in late 2005. AFTER Oakland already knew DHHL didn't want the deal proposed for P9.

And another thing, why would the landlord be bound by a confidentiality agreement if he wasn't a partner to the deal? Big developers just like to tell him stuff so he knows what's going on???
i think we both need to check the timeline to figure out the big picture.

the landlord in this case was Campbell.... not Oakland, he was the tenant. the article stated that it was an affiliate of Oakland, and then there was Oakland saying he's not affiliated with the buyer, right?

so there is a piece of the puzzle that is missing. its confusing, i know, that's why you gotta PAY ATTENTION to what i'm saying.. lol

[dirt racer]

wasn't it because of a death and Campbell Estate needed to liquidate? there was a deadline too.


You got some document proving this? Or is that something one of MO's butt kissers pulled out of his asshole and posted on one of the bullshit forums?

I already posted a newspaper article stating who closed the track:


"This is a decision made by Hawai'i Raceway Park and was not caused by
Campbell Estate," estate spokeswoman Theresia McMurdo said. "We have
not asked Hawai'i Raceway Park to leave and in fact we have been
extending the lease."

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/27/ln/FP601270359.html

Here's another one:


The island's only raceway park just outside of Campbell Industrial Park closed in 2006 after the owner declined to renew the lease.

http://www.starbulletin.com/business/businessnews/20081108_ex-hawaii_raceway_to_foreclose.html

You want to make the claim that Campbell needed to liquidate HRP, let's see some docs backing that up. Otherwise I call BS.

[dirt racer]

and then there was Oakland saying he's not affiliated with the buyer, right?


Yeah he said lots of stuff, read this:


A Letter from Mike Oakland


December 27, 2005
Reference: Hawaii Motorsports Center Closure

I write this to inform you of the situation with Hawaii Raceway Park. All of you have looked to me for many years to keep HRP open and also move through the process to get the parcel of land at Kalealoa (Barbers Point) designated as a racetrack in the BRAC 93 round of base closures moving forward.

I have felt all along that DHHL would deal with us in good faith. Finally, In July of this year, after almost 2 years of silence, DHHL sent me a letter to proceed with the legally binding exchange agreement signed in 2002, but doesn’t want the land we originally agreed to. I have sent numerous letters, emails and phone calls to them asking for alternate sites or directions since without a response

Our existing variance for the extended use of the HRP, (signed in 99 for 5 years) has expired in January). Add to that I am faced with closing all the cesspools at the track under federal EPA mandate (by the end of this month). There are many other land use issues that will hold us back so the only permanent solution is the parcel approved by the BRAC reuse commissions in1996, voted and approved in 1997 and signed into the act at closure in 99. The 140 acres in Kalaeloa.

This up coming legislative session is my last shot to get us moved to the above mentioned parcel, after that, I will join you wherever you choose to race. A passive stance by anyone who has motorsports interests at heart will doom our efforts to failure. The 05 participation at the Capitol cruise, opened many eyes but testimony and letters to your legislators were few and far between thereafter. This process is hard because it is cumbersome, yet essential.

Our bills are still alive in the Senate Finance committee, Chair Brian Taniguchi (HB 994 HD2, SD1) and House Finance committee under Dwight Takamine SB1734, SD2. Representative Takamine mentioned it in the closing speech on the floor last year as not passing because of the states economy. That question is over; the state is now talking about surpluses. Our bills would not have cost us anything. Check the explanation by Mike Kitchens on the Race Events Hawaii site for full details and www.capitol.hawaii.gov

If this bill can pass this year, it would be hard to close HRP while the new facility is under construction. If it fails, someone else needs to step up, I’m tired. We have many friends at the legislature who believe in us, but don’t think there are that many of you out there. Chad, Mike, Paul, John, Jerry etc. have spoken for most. Now its time for “ALL” to step up and contact all the legislators to speak for themselves.

I hope you all can find it in your schedule of posting and chatting to put something down and call, write or email your legislator in support of the approved site and bills.

Respectfully,

Michael T. Oakland
Hawaii Motorsports Center


That was December 2005. Now read what he told the newspaper in April 2006.


Oakland said that if the tax credit is approved to help with financing,he has other agreements in place for land that could be swapped with the state Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, which owns the Kalaeloa parcel being eyed for the new complex.


http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Apr/03/ln/FP604030349.html

HOW THE FUCK COULD HE HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE IF THE OTHER SIDE DIDN'T WANT IT!!!???

[udrivecrap]

You got some document proving this? Or is that something one of MO's butt kissers pulled out of his asshole and posted on one of the bullshit forums?
ok wait, i just looked for it. http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Jan/24/bz/FP701240365.html

it was the wish of James Campbell to terminate the trust 20 years after the death of Beatrice, his daughter, in 1987.

it became the James Campbell Co. with "nearly" all of the assets intact. you are correct and i didn't remember correctly about them needing to liquidate. its what normally happens though, trusts liquidate and distribute cash to the beneficiaries... but not in this case.

You want to make the claim that Campbell needed to liquidate HRP, let's see some docs backing that up. Otherwise I call BS.
well, so they didn't "need" to.. but here is a quote from McMurdo in 2001

http://archives.starbulletin.com/2001/04/13/business/story1.html

The trust is always looking for opportunities to buy and sell land in Hawaii and on the mainland, Campbell spokeswoman Theresia McMurdo said. Last year, the estate sold off 14 properties in six states.

there, see... they buy and SELL land.

[udrivecrap]

Yeah he said lots of stuff, read this:



That was December 2005. Now read what he told the newspaper in April 2006.



http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Apr/03/ln/FP604030349.html

HOW THE FUCK COULD HE HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE IF THE OTHER SIDE DIDN'T WANT IT!!!???
umm... land exchange. there are subject to's in there. they didn't want the original land but there were other land agreements... the Chang one, which they didn't want again... but it COULD have been swapped.

and there lies your problem. yes your problem. you want a track, i want a track, they want a track... looks like your former friend and the DHHL guy were stabbing us all in the back from the get go. i wasn't being mislead, you were.

i'm glad you posted that letter, it explains things a bit more.

[dirt racer]

It's called respect. If you don't have it for yourself and others you won't understand.

Unlike other web sites that attract drama queens, PCHIH is for adults who want to kick back, relax and shoot the shit with their buddies. We don't have time for pettiness or bickering. If you're looking for drama please look elsewhere. Life is dramatic enough, we don't need it on our forum.

If that doesn't work for you I invite you to delete your membership from the site. But I doubt that will happen since you seem to love us so much you can't help but talk about us :D

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/district-9-poster-0.jpg

[udrivecrap]

even when you asked about the waikane land.. wasn't the answer to SORT and OMAC a big fat "no" and that "they" had other plans for parcel 9?

you were too busy looking for Oakland as the lying old coot to see what smacked you right in the face. they didn't want a racetrack for the racers, i don't think Oakland is to blame for that because he tried to get it, more than once, for many years.

now, who is the puppet master(s)... who is to blame for no racetrack?? FYI, i wasn't surprised to hear about the SORT fall out, i was highly disappointed that the original founders couldn't endure what was being thrown at them.

we should have lunch sometime and quit discussing this on the forum.. we'd make more progress that way and maybe find a viable solution to this whole pile of turd. :D

[udrivecrap]

i'll actually pay for lunch because maybe i can write it off... lol

[dirt racer]

even when you asked about the waikane land.. wasn't the answer to SORT and OMAC a big fat "no" and that "they" had other plans for parcel 9?

you were too busy looking for Oakland as the lying old coot to see what smacked you right in the face. they didn't want a racetrack for the racers, i don't think Oakland is to blame for that because he tried to get it, more than once, for many years.

now, who is the puppet master(s)... who is to blame for no racetrack?? FYI, i wasn't surprised to hear about the SORT fall out, i was highly disappointed that the original founders couldn't endure what was being thrown at them.

we should have lunch sometime and quit discussing this on the forum.. we'd make more progress that way and maybe find a viable solution to this whole pile of turd. :D

My main criticism of Oakland isn't for trying to build a new track. They had been trying to do this for some 15 years (without success). Very few racers were against this. My main criticism is for closing HRP and selling the purchase contract to Irongate. If he didn't want to go through the hassle of running the place, he could have sold the lease to someone else. Or at least made it known his plan to sell the purchase contract. Perhaps some racers could have bid on the property and kept the track running. $18 million would have been easier to come up with than the $50 million Irongate was asking. His reasoning for doing this was to try and force the State (by not having a racetrack) to hand over $50 million + 139 acres of Hawaiian Homes Land. I know that doesn't make any sense to the average "sane" person, but that's the way he thinks.

Now as far as politicians and department heads supporting racing - they don't. Many people are point blank against racing. They think it's wasteful, and don't want one in their backyard. This is why trying to build a track in another location is going to be so hard. With HRP, you can make the case that a track worked there before. But yeah, tell Evelyn to get a hold of me and we can have a meeting. SORT meetings rock!

[punishum]

If he didn't want to go through the hassle of running the place, he could have sold the lease to someone else. Or at least made it known his plan to sell the purchase contract.

Just like Sad Man Insane ( Sadam ) burning the oil fields as he got his ASS kicked out of Kuwait. OR a spousal abuser proclaiming,"If I NO can Have you, Nobody will."

I warned "ALL You RACERS this was GOING to happen."

The option to purchase was done in 1998. You know why?

"I" was poking around to see what the deal for the lease was and at that time "I" had 4 investors that was going to give the money to BUY HRP.

You guys are ALL a bunch of DUMB ASSES . . .

[udrivecrap]

My main criticism of Oakland isn't for trying to build a new track. They had been trying to do this for some 15 years (without success). Very few racers were against this. My main criticism is for closing HRP and selling the purchase contract to Irongate. If he didn't want to go through the hassle of running the place, he could have sold the lease to someone else. Or at least made it known his plan to sell the purchase contract. Perhaps some racers could have bid on the property and kept the track running. $18 million would have been easier to come up with than the $50 million Irongate was asking. His reasoning for doing this was to try and force the State (by not having a racetrack) to hand over $50 million + 139 acres of Hawaiian Homes Land. I know that doesn't make any sense to the average "sane" person, but that's the way he thinks.

Now as far as politicians and department heads supporting racing - they don't. Many people are point blank against racing. They think it's wasteful, and don't want one in their backyard. This is why trying to build a track in another location is going to be so hard. With HRP, you can make the case that a track worked there before. But yeah, tell Evelyn to get a hold of me and we can have a meeting. SORT meetings rock!
i completely understand what you are saying, the only thing is if you keep the old track running then why would you need a bigger place, as you said there is no (or very little) support and if its still there... why do anything?

lol... Evelyn is the one who suggested i take you to lunch. i told her i'll try to some day. and that day is here. :D

[udrivecrap]

Just like Sad Man Insane ( Sadam ) burning the oil fields as he got his ASS kicked out of Kuwait. OR a spousal abuser proclaiming,"If I NO can Have you, Nobody will."

I warned "ALL You RACERS this was GOING to happen."

The option to purchase was done in 1998. You know why?

"I" was poking around to see what the deal for the lease was and at that time "I" had 4 investors that was going to give the money to BUY HRP.

You guys are ALL a bunch of DUMB ASSES . . .
no kidding? so you wanted to take the track away from him that long ago?

nice.....

[punishum]

no kidding? so you wanted to take the track away from him that long ago?

nice.....

Actually since the BRAC hearings started in 1993.

I am NO Newbie to this BS game.

[udrivecrap]

Actually since the BRAC hearings started in 1993.

I am NO Newbie to this BS game.
good lord... this is why i don't like to ask too many questions. i'm afraid i'll find out something i don't want to know... LOL

[dirt racer]

even when you asked about the waikane land.. wasn't the answer to SORT and OMAC a big fat "no" and that "they" had other plans for parcel 9?


Yes, that was the answer. There was an interesting news report recently about that land:

http://www.khnl.com/Global/story.asp?s=8701340

[punishum]

good lord... this is why i don't like to ask too many questions. i'm afraid i'll find out something i don't want to know... LOL

Yup, I know where all the bodies are and ALL the stories on how they got there.

You guys are all NEWBIEs. You should have rookie stripes.

[udrivecrap]

Yes, that was the answer. There was an interesting news report recently about that land:

http://www.khnl.com/Global/story.asp?s=8701340
mmmm,hmmmm.... recently?

Updated: Jul 18, 2008 7:30 PM

its late 2009 bro... recently is like early 09 or so. LOL.

[udrivecrap]

Yup, I know where all the bodies are and ALL the stories on how they got there.
yikes, sounds like the blair witch project. LOL
You guys are all NEWBIEs. You should have rookie stripes.
haha... did you say stripes?

http://z.hubpages.com/u/414041_f520.jpg

[dirt racer]

mmmm,hmmmm.... recently?

its late 2009 bro... recently is like early 09 or so. LOL.

What I gotta find everything for ya???

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090816/STATEHOOD01/908160330&template=statehood/Hawaiian+renaissance

[udrivecrap]

camaro owners get a free pizza today. :D just letting you guys know... i'm gonna get some rolaids before lunch.

[punishum]

camaro owners get a free pizza today. :D just letting you guys know... i'm gonna get some rolaids before lunch.

Get it right Davey. NO DELIVERIES, ONLY pick up at a PaPa John's location. And you have to have your Camaro there.

You know why? In celebration of him finding his first car ( which was a Camaro ) that he sold to keep his fathers tavern from going belly up and the rest he used to start Papa John's.

You guys ALWAYs only tell / hear half the story and go around preaching it like its the gospel.

[LJW]

Get it right Davey. NO DELIVERIES, ONLY pick up at a PaPa John's location. And you have to have your Camaro there.

You know why? In celebration of him finding his first car ( which was a Camaro ) that he sold to keep his fathers tavern from going belly up and the rest he used to start Papa John's.

You guys ALWAYs only tell / hear half the story and go around preaching it like its the gospel.

Yah! Get it right Eugene!

[udrivecrap]

LOL.. of course i know why i get free pizza and this Eugene got no probs with pick ups. :D i'm about ready to get some yo!

guys, don't be all hatin & j cuz i didn't offer you guys a piece. hahaha.. see if Les woulda had lunch with me today he'd be eating pizza right now.

[punishum]

Who TF is Eugene and what kind of Pizza did you get.

Was it a small, 1 topping deal or you got a supreme :confused: :confused:

[udrivecrap]

i don't know who Eugene is... that's just how Leo is da kine funny like that :D

it was a large pepperoni and all i had to do was show my registration. i ended up getting garlic cheese breadsticks and a 2 liter soda, made a salad and a macaroni bake.... i forgot the rolaids. oddly enough my stomach is still made of iron cuz i'm not having heartburn or anything.

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt240/Udrive/030.jpg

look at that... i don't drink cheap beer in cans... LOL! :rolleyes:

[punishum]

look at that... i don't drink cheap beer in cans... LOL! :rolleyes:

Hey Davy Boi, why does the box say $9.60 ?

Buying that one beer bottle is as bad as Sink Boi making all of his False Proclamations. :D

Tell Jokeland 2 get you guys something other than Milwaukee Lights or what ever is on SALE. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Bad beer will make U go blind, didn't your elders teach U anything :confused: :confused:

[punishum]

i made a salad .... Eh, Davy . . a couple of Green onion stalks from your back yard doesn't count as a "SALAD" you know . . . . :eek:

[udrivecrap]

LOL.. the bread sticks and soda wasn't free.. and even if i did grow stuff, i wouldn't eat anything from my yard. i'm much more high class than that.. i shop at safeway.. haha

funny you should mention sink boi... i saw him and Chris last night. i didn't ask about the track and any false proclamations, we were just hangin out and having a good time.

i suppose i shoulda asked if they were going to have a christmas race this year. :o then i coulda posted up info in the other thread.

yeah i know.. i suck. lol

[punishum]

Seen Sink Boi @ the Sandbox ground breaking this past week.

I hate it when others take credit for others accomplishments. Know what I mean Vern . . . :p

Wish you had shared some of that pizza . . . :D

Hey Davy, kinda hard to post news when there is NONE

[Hawaiian turbo]

So are the negotiations still going on about the purchase of HRP?? I hope so !!!!

Some of the guys at Paradise Cruisers race.... or used to.

[punishum]

So are the negotiations still going on about the purchase of HRP?? I hope so !!!!

Some of the guys at Paradise Cruisers race.... or used to.

A PLAN is only as GOOD as those who see it through.

And nothing will happen as evident if you surround yourself with only CHEATS, Liars and Thieves

[Hawaiian turbo]

A PLAN is only as GOOD as those who see it through.

And nothing will happen as evident if you surround yourself with only CHEATS, Liars and Thieves

Sooooo this means.... what? Yes.... no.... maybe?

[udrivecrap]

i'm pretty sure it means he doesn't know...

i know... the answer is: d) all of the above. :D

[punishum]

i'm pretty sure it means he doesn't know...

i know... the answer is: d) all of the above. :D

I wasn't the one ( Nor would I ever ) have a quote "good time" with the Spin Doctors.

You were the one who blew the opportunity to get us some answers. :rolleyes:

[udrivecrap]

ahhhhh.... ok.

from what i gather on P24, the latest is that the dirt pile needed to be removed to clear the violation. then dirt will come back in again for a track. someone asked about it the other day and based on the response there should be some info in less than a week. you can hold your breath if you want to, its been 9 months so 1 more week ain't gonna hurt.

HRP... i'm not exactly sure how many "groups" wanted to buy it... i do know that one of those groups still really wants to build a track.

there... you happy? :D

[udrivecrap]

soooooo... :D

did any of you go to the mud bog? how was the turnout? lol...

[Hawaiian turbo]

I didn't go, but I heard the turnout was pretty good, and with very little advertising. Maybe I gotta build another truck and throw the turbo setup in there!!!!

Well, I hope the group that wants a track will get the winning bid!!!!!!

[dirt racer]

soooooo... :D

did any of you go to the mud bog? how was the turnout? lol...

I didn't go either, but I heard they were turning cars back after about 600 showed up. No room for parking!

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRS1dHmmlLU

[punishum]

I didn't go either, but I heard they were turning cars back after about 600 showed up. No room for parking!

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRS1dHmmlLU



NO Permits, NO Insurance. A lawsuit waiting to happen.

[dirt racer]

NO Permits, NO Insurance. A lawsuit waiting to happen.

Well hopefully they didn't have any accidents. I give them credit for actually putting on a successful event instead of just bullshitting.

[dirt racer]

from what i gather on P24, the latest is that the dirt pile needed to be removed to clear the violation. then dirt will come back in again for a track. someone asked about it the other day and based on the response there should be some info in less than a week. you can hold your breath if you want to, its been 9 months so 1 more week ain't gonna hurt.


Actually it's been over 2 years already. And what you wrote doesn't make any sense. But yeah, that's probably what you heard. lol

[udrivecrap]

who said anything about making sense? :confused: ..am i supposed to make sense?

i thought we were just goofing off in here... :rolleyes: :D :o :p http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Mar/22/ln/hawaii803220352.html more than two years, i think..

dude you need more smileys in here, you suck with what choices you got. ROFLMAO!

[punishum]

Well hopefully they didn't have any accidents. I give them credit for actually putting on a successful event instead of just bullshitting.

That is true, so VERY TRUE.

Unless you have put on an event ( Car show is NOT an event ) you have NO CLUE what it really takes.

[Mud Packer]

Well hopefully they didn't have any accidents. I give them credit for actually putting on a successful event instead of just bullshitting.

Just bullshitting, you mean like Mike K. at Hawaii Talks? Anyone who thinks theres gonna be a track at parcel 24 has rocks in their head. Right Dave?

[udrivecrap]

whoa, a stranger... its mud pusher :D hahaha.. i feel priviledged to be cyber schmoozing with you. ;)

so i was at shiro's today. :( took for f'kn ever to get my food, when it finally came it was good.. but not great. :o

you know, i managed to learn something about racing here, mud lover.. :D.. it doesn't matter if the cook drops the meat as long as the dinner is served, right?

[punishum]

Just bullshitting, you mean like Mike K. at Hawaii Talks? Anyone who thinks theres gonna be a track at parcel 24 has rocks in their head. Right Dave?

Sink BOI only likes to bash those who CAN and DID. ( Car Shows DON'T Count. )

That is why he will ALWAYs be a Follower. CHARGE that Hill Boi and take that Flak.

[punishum]

Hey Davy, never knew you had a daughter and in the Jr D program. Passing on the racing gene. Right on.

And please keep us here on RIH informed if you hear anything from the LIAR, Um I mean Sink BOI in regards to anything going on other than dirt being moved around.

[udrivecrap]

nah.. i don't have a daughter in the program... one of her friends recently got a new jr.dragster, she wants to race in one with her friend but it ain't gonna happen if we have to go to another island.

sux to be the kids who want to race on oahu. without them there is no next generation.

sure, i'll keep ya posted on the track :rolleyes: if you have a hard time reading it. lol

but ... forgive me if it (whatever) opens and i'm not all excited about it. no 1/4 mile dragstrip = donkey balls no matter how you spell it.

[punishum]

The Jr D program here with George Nitta is really good. They abide by the NHRA rules and safety is first.

Young Brothers sponsors the Jr Ds to go to Maui and PunishUM's sponsor GO Air which by the way is the exclusive to PunishUM for motorsports, I brokered a deal from GO Air to sponsor the Nitta's Jr Ds with great airfare rates. So it will be a lot more economical then you think.

The Nitta's Jr Ds are planning to go soon.

And Yeah, please keep us at RIH what the dealio is as I don't waste my time with rumors or rumors of rumors.

As the Ole saying goes Waha talks while something something walks. I don't know. :D

[udrivecrap]

nice.. yeah, from what i hear and know.. George seems like a good guy.

i got a track update for ya...the update is that there is no update. and the more i type update i will wear the word out. so there's your update. i'll update you some more when i see an update posted. hahaha

in other oahu track news... the track layout at this last SCCA event on sunday was tough, i sucked... but it was a great learning experience. i'm doing upgrades slowly so that i can fine tune my driving skills and learn the car. every time i go out there i learn something new about my driving.

ok... that's all for now. :D

[Mud Packer]

No there's a big update at bullshitracewaypark.com Mike K. says he just needs to do one more thing. Hmm, I wonder what that might be? How about just STOP BULLSHITTING EVERYONE ABOUT YOUR BULLSHIT TRACK!

[punishum]

We had the meeting/inspection and are required to complete one more requirement before we can be cleared by the DPP & DHHL. We need a few weeks to complete their request before we can move forward. Again, another delay, but our hands are tied and we've gotta get this done before we can hold events.

Haven't we heard that line before.

Hey Sink BOI, quit LYING to everyone. Besides how are you gonna fit ANYTHING in between those BUNKERS :confused:

You can't even FART in the Wind there without hitting a Iwi or some archaeological artifact.

You are such a LIAR :mad:

Take the $ $ $ $ out of your own pocket instead of depending on others :eek:

Put your money where your LEG is, Uhm WAS :rolleyes:

[udrivecrap]

hahahaha... well, you guys are quicker than i am on these updates.

we could say its bullsh*t... or we could just wait 3 more weeks to see if this ONE last thing gets done and the place opens up.

last i saw, the dirt was moving out and those barriers are there around the place. but it takes 8 weeks to build a dirt track, right? so that means if it does open up in 3 weeks then the only event they could hold right away is the RallyX.

now i'm not so sure how events like that would turn out. i hope they focus on getting the dirt oval built, honestly, i think more people would attend the CT than the RallyX.

[udrivecrap]

i'll tell you guys something else. when i was racing at the stadium, these guys were talking, one of them was from florida and he goes "so, are they going to build a new track or what?"

the other guys said, and i quote... "oh, they are building a 1/4 mile dragstrip over there near barber's point."

that's when i went.. WTF? of course i had to chime in with my thoughts....

now i was wondering how this guy thought there was going to be a dragstrip. it wasn't because of ProGas.. so it had to be because of the big plan for KRP that was posted all over the place?

which would mean there's gotta be more people out there that think there's going to be a facility built... and if it doesn't happen they will be dissapointed. which is a sad thought.

[punishum]

i'll tell you guys something else. when i was racing at the stadium, these guys were talking, one of them was from florida and he goes "so, are they going to build a new track or what?"

the other guys said, and i quote... "oh, they are building a 1/4 mile dragstrip over there near barber's point."

that's when i went.. WTF? of course i had to chime in with my thoughts....

now i was wondering how this guy thought there was going to be a dragstrip. it wasn't because of ProGas.. so it had to be because of the big plan for KRP that was posted all over the place?

which would mean there's gotta be more people out there that think there's going to be a facility built... and if it doesn't happen they will be dissapointed. which is a sad thought.

DAvy, that is TOOOOOOOooo, FUNNY Man.

I guess the outta towners DID NOT realize that the Level of Bull SHIT in Hawaii is the Highest in the NATION
( USA for you morons )

[udrivecrap]

pffffffffffffffffffft.... who needs a track anymore... you guys ever watch the FnF movies? they don't use no fricken racetrack.

you know, Mike Oakland was right. we got H1, H2 & H3. on google earth, oahu kinda looks like a giant race facility. fast food restaurants, ice cream, race gas, souveniers, tourists, lots of turns and straight aways... plus its FREE admission :D LOL

[punishum]

you know, Mike Oakland was right. we got H1, H2 & H3.

Shame on you Davy. That Old Fricken COOT has NEVER been right about ANYTHING :mad: :mad:

And the PRICK is the REASON why WE ARE IN THIS PREDICAMENT :mad: :mad: :mad:

And he made $ $ $ off of this situation as well. I guess a few Milwaukee Lights thrown your way was sufficient enough. Shame on You.

And FYI, COOT, Joky, Ahol, Prik, Jerk are all 4 letter words and proper nouns or aptly in this case an adjective. It could very well be a noun too as a person, place or thing. In the case of Jokeland if a survey were taken it would be unanimous that Joeky would be a THING. (And Sink Boi has been the spokesperson, Uhm, LIAR for both regimes. P 9 and P 24 )

A famous boxer was once asked years ago why the decline in boxing and what fix could solve the problem. His response was," If Bob Arums and Don King was to DROP DEAD Immediately."

The above ( Unfortunately ) never happened. But what did happen was boxers like Del A Hoya and others took control of their own careers and became able to help other boxers by forming their own management companies like Bad Boy and self promoted their events and cards.

[dirt racer]

Haven't we heard that line before.

Hey Sink BOI, quit LYING to everyone. Besides how are you gonna fit ANYTHING in between those BUNKERS :confused:

You can't even FART in the Wind there without hitting a Iwi or some archaeological artifact.

You are such a LIAR :mad:

Take the $ $ $ $ out of your own pocket instead of depending on others :eek:

Put your money where your LEG is, Uhm WAS :rolleyes:

Sounds like they're gonna build a baseball park instead. :confused: :confused: :confused:


We're still getting that...but it's not so bad as it was. I guess because they're starting to fall on deaf ears.

It is moving forward...but as with all things dealing with the city and state goverments, there's some little rule or regulation that we need to follow exactly right to get approval or proceed with one action or another. This is just another case of that.

Once there's grass, we'll play ball. Literally.

[punishum]

Sounds like they're gonna build a baseball park instead. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Not to mention satisfying the NOO ( Notice of Order ).

When did it start? At $1000 per day? That thing has to be over $400,000 by now.

Unlike baseball's Field of Dreams this IS a Nightmare. Wakey, Wakey :rolleyes:

June made it 2 years, hundreds of promised dates and BIG purse events that never happened. Tons of violations and they have made thousands of enemies. Yup, that is really pulling people together isn't it.

Same MO as the real MO. Same Liar in front to so that explains it.

[punishum]

Posted Yesterday by kawi6rr. Are you still getting opposition from the petty crazy group or have they finally just let it go?

Posted by Archangel IX yesterday. We're still getting that...but it's not so bad as it was. I guess because they're starting to fall on deaf ears.

You are SUCH A LIAR SINK BOI ! ! !

Self Inflicted Gun ShoT Wounds are NOT the fault of SOMEONE ELSE ! ! !

4 years of your LIES for 2 failed Groups / Attempts

Why is the racing community DIVIDED ? ? ? Because of ONE SINGLE MORON, SINK BOI :mad:

[LJW]

I've had first-hand experience with PM&E, and let me tell you, if you or any of your friends are in need of a head job, Chad is the man to see . Auuriiite

[udrivecrap]

I've had first-hand experience with PM&E, and let me tell you, if you or any of your friends are in need of a head job, Chad is the man to see . Auuriiite
yup... Chad helped me out when my valves were leaking. he gave some good advice.

and even though Les and i don't agree on some things i still send people to his shop because i know he does good work.

its all about supporting your fellow racers :D auuuuuryte.

[LJW]

yup... Chad helped me out when my valves were leaking. he gave some good advice.

and even though Les and i don't agree on some things i still send people to his shop because i know he does good work.

its all about supporting your fellow racers :D auuuuuryte.

Dave, if you had a brain, you would be dangerous.

[udrivecrap]

Dave, if you had a brain, you would be dangerous.
so i've been told... hahahahaha :)

[punishum]

I've had first-hand experience with PM&E, and let me tell you, if you or any of your friends are in need of a head job, Chad is the man to see . Auuriiite

Hey Davy, that one went right over YOUR head :rolleyes:

[udrivecrap]

oh i knew what he meant. i was using it as a PERFECT example of how posts on the internet can be misconstrued.

yes i know it was brilliant.. that's the kind of things you do when you are super intelligent like me. hahahahaha :D

[punishum]

that's the kind of things you do when you are super intelligent like me. hahahahaha :D

Now THAT was FUNNY . . . I have a parcel near a runway you might be interested in . . . Give U a couple of Milwaukee Lights if you help me spread the Word :D

[punishum]

oh i knew what he meant. i was using it as a PERFECT example of how posts on the internet can be misconstrued.


I believe you Davy :rolleyes:

[udrivecrap]

Now THAT was FUNNY . . . I have a parcel near a runway you might be interested in . . . Give U a couple of Milwaukee Lights if you help me spread the Word :D
oh boy, not ANOTHER parcel near a runway :rolleyes: ... got anything else? lol..
I believe you Davy :rolleyes:
so.. would you believe me if i told you that Mike Kittens is one of the nicest guys i've met and i consider him a friend? Also, he's not old enough to be masterful at deception, give him time... LOL we all get better with age. :D

besides... Mike or OMAC isn't the one on the lease, or what... :cool:

[punishum]

so.. would you believe me if i told you that Mike Kittens is one of the nicest guys i've met and i consider him a friend? Also, he's not old enough to be masterful at deception, give him time... LOL we all get better with age. :D

besides... Mike or OMAC isn't the one on the lease, or what... :cool:

I know you are a family man so I know it couldn't be the pipe other than YOU need to grow much older and get a LOT more wiser cause you can't recognize CRAP even when it is being dished out COLD. :eek:

And you need to chose better company. Your track record SUCKs :rolleyes:

[udrivecrap]

LOL...ok :D

[Hawaiian turbo]

I "heard" HRP was sold. The tenents have to move off the land. Anyone here anything about this?

[udrivecrap]

I "heard" HRP was sold. The tenents have to move off the land. Anyone here anything about this?

nope, other than i "heard" it was sold too...

http://66.192.218.34/website/parcelzoning/viewer.htm

you can look to see the owner information. the new map is not working, but the old map shows the owner.

[LJW]

nope, other than i "heard" it was sold too...

http://66.192.218.34/website/parcelzoning/viewer.htm

you can look to see the owner information. the new map is not working, but the old map shows the owner.

So who's the Owner? Who want's to go through the bs of looking at a map? Just spit it out.

[dirt racer]

The current owner of HRP is a company called MKA. They held the first mortgage for Irongate. Irongate also took out a second mortgage and then walked away from both with several million dollars. It's amazing that this sort of thing is legal. MKA is hot to sell the property now. They've had offers, but no one has come up with the financing yet. Lenders these days want large cash down payments for commercial property, so any prospective buyer will probably have to come with 9-10 million in cash.

[Dirt Devil]

Lenders these days want large cash down payments for commercial property, so any prospective buyer will probably have to come with 9-10 million in cash.

So whats the problem than. Here everybody sayinig they going buy the place. Big talk from everybody. but who get that kine money. When the beer go down the mouth talk fast.

[udrivecrap]

So who's the Owner? Who want's to go through the bs of looking at a map? Just spit it out.

LOL.. but the map is really cool, lots of info that we used to have to look up in books before, or go into town to look it up.

i was hoping you would ask how to use it.. its pretty user friendly.

[udrivecrap]

So whats the problem than. Here everybody sayinig they going buy the place. Big talk from everybody. but who get that kine money. When the beer go down the mouth talk fast.

the problems is $10 million dollars... apparently. looks like nobody we know wants to spend that kind of money on a racetrack.

and to think, the city was looking at $50 million estimate to condemn.. wow.

[dirt racer]

the problems is $10 million dollars... apparently. looks like nobody we know wants to spend that kind of money on a racetrack.

and to think, the city was looking at $50 million estimate to condemn.. wow.

I heard the 50 million figure from some realtors. Of course those same realtors have been unable to sell the property for 50, or even 20 million.

The current landowner would be more than happy to have the county condemn it.

[punishum]

the problems is $10 million dollars... apparently. looks like nobody we know wants to spend that kind of money on a racetrack.

and to think, the city was looking at $50 million estimate to condemn.. wow.

I have HEARD so many rumors and rumors of rumors of junkyard guys, dirt hill people, to a group of drag racers was going to buy HRP, or the Feedlot. Other rumors like an 1/8 mile is already built, a mud bog this month and another asking, no BEGGING shops for $150,000 to help build some dirt deal. To Build the Charade, rampant and no other word for it than BS.

Easy to talk when it isn't YOUR ASS or MONEY on the line. I can speak first hand how much work and money it takes to do anything here in this state. Especially when it comes to a racing venue. Having cars going fast with spectators. Not cars sitting pretty for people to gawk at. The insurance alone will kill you. And that is why no one else has done it. Legally, not some back yard deal on the North Shore and you pray no one gets hurt or GOD forbid, killed.

Too much talk and BS not enough WORK. Stop the lying, get off of the damn fence and put your money and time where your Pie Hole used to be.

Instead of WAITING on "ALL" of your collective Duffs and depending on LIARs or the Tooth Fairy and or Santa Clause to pull a Racetrack out of a rabbits ASS.

DO SOMETHING, GET INVOLVED ! ! !

[udrivecrap]

I heard the 50 million figure from some realtors. Of course those same realtors have been unable to sell the property for 50, or even 20 million.

The current landowner would be more than happy to have the county condemn it.
so what then... bring that up to the house again. or do you think Hanabusa will kill it before it even becomes a baby? :confused:

[udrivecrap]

I have HEARD so many rumors and rumors of rumors of junkyard guys, dirt hill people, to a group of drag racers was going to buy HRP, or the Feedlot. Other rumors like an 1/8 mile is already built, a mud bog this month and another asking, no BEGGING shops for $150,000 to help build some dirt deal. To Build the Charade, rampant and no other word for it than BS.

Easy to talk when it isn't YOUR ASS or MONEY on the line. I can speak first hand how much work and money it takes to do anything here in this state. Especially when it comes to a racing venue. Having cars going fast with spectators. Not cars sitting pretty for people to gawk at. The insurance alone will kill you. And that is why no one else has done it. Legally, not some back yard deal on the North Shore and you pray no one gets hurt or GOD forbid, killed.

Too much talk and BS not enough WORK. Stop the lying, get off of the damn fence and put your money and time where your Pie Hole used to be.

Instead of WAITING on "ALL" of your collective Duffs and depending on LIARs or the Tooth Fairy and or Santa Clause to pull a Racetrack out of a rabbits ASS.

DO SOMETHING, GET INVOLVED ! ! !
yup, talk is cheap. that's all we've been doing on the forums for 3+ years.

i am involved with a group and i'm not holding my breath for others to produce something.

its not very smooth to go around telling people to put their money where their mouth is. that's generally not how real estate investments are done. you could try to do it that way but i'm not sure how far you'd get with your client or what kind of relationship you would have in the future.

[punishum]

yup, talk is cheap. that's all we've been doing on the forums for 3+ years.

i am involved with a group and i'm not holding my breath for others to produce something.

Double down Davy, how much you willing to lose? You and your group better start saving them pennies and quit drinking Corona's. $25 Million is a lot of pennies.

Talk is cheap. If I had a dollar for every story that someone is working on some deal. I could have bought HRP myself.

Word of advice young man, Never talk about anything till it happens. Haven't you learned from all your LOSER mentors? :confused:

You messed up Davy, cats out of the bag, you spilled the beans. Now someone is going to work to STOP you and your Motley Bunch. Guarans Ball Barans

its not very smooth to go around telling people to put their money where their mouth is. that's generally not how real estate investments are done. you could try to do it that way but i'm not sure how far you'd get with your client or what kind of relationship you would have in the future.

Well talk is cheap and all there has been from EVERYBODY, you included is TALK. When any of YOU accomplish anything other than TALK, then you come TALK to me.

All you have done as well Davy is to be a part of the PROBLEM, Never the Solution :mad:

As for your PROJECT, I'll believe it when I see some racing is REALLY going on, that can be put on camera for all to see and not stopped because it was illegal due to permits or land issues. Till then, TALK is CHEAP and "ONLY TALK".

I can hear your gears saying,"I'll show him." Good, Davy Boi, Show me, I would love to be wrong and see a track happen from
Anybody But Jokeland ABJ

[punishum]

i am involved with a group

Which group Davy? The Oahu Pro Gas Association? How original? Wasn't the REAL Deal and ORIGINAL association that Nitta started called the "50th State Pro Gas Asscoiation"? And that one was around for 30 years.

You guys can't even come up with an original NAME, much less an Original Idea.

And let me guess, the BIG Secret is THE "FEEDLOT".

and i'm not holding my breath for others to produce something.

Neither am I, especially with a Motley Bunch that can't even come up with an original name.

The idea alone is so ancient and NOT DOABLE I am already turning purple . . . :(

[udrivecrap]

Double down Davy, how much you willing to lose? You and your group better start saving them pennies and quit drinking Corona's. $25 Million is a lot of pennies.

Talk is cheap. If I had a dollar for every story that someone is working on some deal. I could have bought HRP myself.

Word of advice young man, Never talk about anything till it happens. Haven't you learned from all your LOSER mentors? :confused:

You messed up Davy, cats out of the bag, you spilled the beans. Now someone is going to work to STOP you and your Motley Bunch. Guarans Ball Barans
deal or no deal.. lol.

nah, there's some people in general that don't like racing.. and like Les said there's little to no support. "racing" must be a dirty word or something. Motley Crue Rocks!


Well talk is cheap and all there has been from EVERYBODY, you included is TALK. When any of YOU accomplish anything other than TALK, then you come TALK to me.

All you have done as well Davy is to be a part of the PROBLEM, Never the Solution :mad:

As for your PROJECT, I'll believe it when I see some racing is REALLY going on, that can be put on camera for all to see and not stopped because it was illegal due to permits or land issues. Till then, TALK is CHEAP and "ONLY TALK".

I can hear your gears saying,"I'll show him." Good, Davy Boi, Show me, I would love to be wrong and see a track happen from
Anybody But Jokeland ABJ

actually, my gears are at a stand still. i have no negative thoughts about this.

[udrivecrap]

Which group Davy? The Oahu Pro Gas Association? How original? Wasn't the REAL Deal and ORIGINAL association that Nitta started called the "50th State Pro Gas Asscoiation"? And that one was around for 30 years.

You guys can't even come up with an original NAME, much less an Original Idea.

And let me guess, the BIG Secret is THE "FEEDLOT".
well... we could have used Rainbow Drag Racers... but that sounds ghey.


Neither am I, especially with a Motley Bunch that can't even come up with an original name.

The idea alone is so ancient and NOT DOABLE I am already turning purple . . . :(
purple is a nice color.. i was turning blue holding my breath, that's why i quit doing it. :D

[punishum]

nah, there's some people in general that don't like racing.. and like Les said there's little to no support. "racing" must be a dirty word or something.

True that Davy. And unfortunately for the racing community all of the ones that DO NOT like racing are also the ones who are the decision makers.

But thats what happens in a stick and ball place. BUT when ever an opportunity to establish a major race event presented itself every and I mean EVERY Attempt went down in flames in such a public inferno EVERY single time.

Then again the same ADVISERs were involved EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Motley Crue Rocks!

Yes they do Davy, BUT your Motley Group doesn't.

I bet you guys Do NOT even know whose door to knock on. Getting the run around is FUN Ain't it :rolleyes: :D

[punishum]

well... we could have used Rainbow Drag Racers... but that sounds ghey.

You mean to tell me Davy, the outer island peeps where the most exciting thing and favorite past time is watching paint dry or grass grow and is only second to kissing cousins can come up with better names than you guys?

C'mon, Valley Isle Timing Association, Big Island Auto Club and the best you guys could do was Rip Off an existing name, change ONE WORD and that was it?

You know in a court of law in regards to a Copyright or Trade name infringement, they would win in a lawsuit.
You guys realize that right?

Then again your fearless leader was the same one who advised VITA to build without a permit.

Uhhhh, never mind :p :D

[udrivecrap]

good grief... :rolleyes: :D you make it all sound so horrible..

like the story about the three blind mice. :o

[punishum]

good grief... :rolleyes: :D you make it all sound so horrible..

like the story about the three blind mice. :o

It is HORRIBLE and the LYING by FOOLs and/or FOOLING yourselves with FANTASY is just PATHETIC

The old adage, TRUTH is stranger than FICTION

You want to know what the TRULY SAD/PATHETIC part about all of this is Davy :confused:

The Best Hollywood HORROR movie writers couldn't even make up this SAD STATE of AFFAIRs even if they wanted to. :eek:

I bet you ALL wished you backed the Save HRP bills now huh. Too bad Hindsight is ALWAYs 20/20

[udrivecrap]

It is HORRIBLE and the LYING by FOOLs and/or FOOLING yourselves with FANTASY is just PATHETIC

The old adage, TRUTH is stranger than FICTION

You want to know what the TRULY SAD/PATHETIC part about all of this is Davy :confused:

The Best Hollywood HORROR movie writers couldn't even make up this SAD STATE of AFFAIRs even if they wanted to. :eek:

I bet you ALL wished you backed the Save HRP bills now huh. Too bad Hindsight is ALWAYs 20/20
hmmmm :cool:

i agree.. what a story. you should document it, the whole thing, with an unbiased professional opinion. i know you could do it, i seen you on tv before. :D

honestly, i still would prefer supporting an effort for a larger private facility like Jokeyland over saving the older established facility. usually that's how, after you pau use em, you get rid of the old stuff and get new better stuff.

but, i dunno man.... instead of who supported what effort, its more like the State of Hawaii just didn't want to do anything at all. be it P9 or saving HRP. then some genius comes up with P24 and all these restrictions and regulations thinking it would shut up the racers.

all this time and even now, you got some people running around like chickens with their heads cut off.. simply for a cause. yeah, its sad.

[dirt racer]

honestly, i still would prefer supporting an effort for a larger private facility like Jokeyland over saving the older established facility. usually that's how, after you pau use em, you get rid of the old stuff and get new better stuff.


The problem with the "larger private facility" concept is the price of industrial property on Oahu. There would be no profit at current prices. And with the way the federal government is printing new money, prices are likely to go higher.

There's been no track on Oahu for going on 4 years now. If any private investor was interested in building one here, they would have started by now.

[udrivecrap]

hey... there you are :D... dirt buddy.

well, that's why i was asking if you are going to try and save HRP again... or do you think Hanabusa will kill it if you did try again.

at any rate, i'm not sure if i'd ask her for her help..... again. :rolleyes: LOL

[punishum]

honestly, i still would prefer supporting an effort for a larger private facility like Jokeyland over saving the older established facility. usually that's how, after you pau use em, you get rid of the old stuff and get new better stuff.

Jokey was NEVER the Answer. That is like keeping Hussein in power. Or Hitler.

all this time and even now, you got some people running around like chickens with their heads cut off.. simply for a cause. yeah, its sad.

Exactly, NO Direction and NO Clue how to get anywhere and LYING about it. Delusional ones claiming to be the Messiah.

Move the dirt, plant the grass, get the permits. Hell, get a CLUE FIRST. Or buy a brain . . . Cell, or two.

What did Iacoca say? "Lead, follow or get outta the way." Sad, they cannot and the worst part WILL NOT do any of these things.

In the mean time they keep leading the FOOLs aimlessly through the desert of despair. Better not be for 40 years.

Being in control of the dirt hill, losing money and talking bubbles is more important than accomplishing anything.

That is not even Sad, that is plain PATHETIC

[punishum]

If any private investor was interested in building one here, they would have started by now.

No PROFIT EVER went back into HRP. 20 years of TALK for a WCF.

"Beware of the PROFIT seeking PROPHET."

But NOooooo, you all wanted to believe that the DECEIVER was the PROPHET.

Too many false Prophets with NO Track record other than TALK and LIES.

[punishum]

well, that's why i was asking if you are going to try and save HRP again... or do you think Hanabusa will kill it if you did try again.

at any rate, i'm not sure if i'd ask her for her help..... again. :rolleyes: LOL

Yeah, like sticking your you know what into that light socket . . . again and again and again. :rolleyes:

How many times are you going to TRY and kick that football Charlie Brown :confused:

Too bad she won't have to vacate her Senate seat to run for the US Congress seat.

That is like being allowed to TRY and steal second, you get tagged "OUT" BUT you still allowed to go back to first.
So you can ATTEMPT to do MORE DAMAGE.

What's up with that?

Latest poll showed her tied with who ever else runs. 11 points each. So even if you combined those 2 numbers, times them twice, Hanahou still comes up WAAAaaaaaaayyYY short of the commanding lead former Congressman Case had in the Advertiser poll taken a few weeks ago.

Too bad even if she loses she won't become a CIVILIAN. She will still be in the state Senate. Darn you Lucy :eek:

[LJW]

hey... there you are :D... dirt buddy.

well, that's why i was asking if you are going to try and save HRP again... or do you think Hanabusa will kill it if you did try again.

at any rate, i'm not sure if i'd ask her for her help..... again. :rolleyes: LOL

Why would we try to save it again, Dave? Being you were part of the reason why we didn't save it, are you rubbing salt in the wound? If I were you, I wouldn't even have HRP in my vocabulary. And, did you think we asked Hanacusu to help us? F**k no! She "Volunteered" Once again, if you don't know what went down, you shouldn't say anything, Period!

[punishum]

And, did you think we asked Hanacusu to help us? F**k no! She "Volunteered" Once again, if you don't know what went down, you shouldn't say anything, Period!

She "VOLUNTEERED" to get the Face Time with all the TV cameras present. HAna and Apo.

What the cameras failed to show ( As ALWAYS ) the aftermath. Failing HB 567 and more.

[punishum]

You know why all this happens and politicians and greedy operators dominate?

Because the VAST MAJORITY of YOU Racers and Wanna Bes sit back and DO NOTHING.

SHEEP, and SHEEP get SLAUGHTERED


Ask Sink Boi why he is doing what he is doing? He will tell you for the RACERS but that is not true. Look at this actions, he loves being the CENTER of ATTENTION or in this case CONTROVERSY. Listen closely, very closely.

Hana lady only did what she did for face time and because she was running for office again and wanted to get the Waianae dirt racers vote. And then what did she do?

Did everything that would HURT, NEVER HELPED ! ! !

Get INVOLVED and do SOMETHING, ANYTHING other than FOLLOWING Self Proclaimed Leaders who NEVER have HAD Racing in its BEST INTEREST.

WAKE da F**K UP ! ! !

[udrivecrap]

Why would we try to save it again, Dave? Being you were part of the reason why we didn't save it, are you rubbing salt in the wound? If I were you, I wouldn't even have HRP in my vocabulary. And, did you think we asked Hanacusu to help us? F**k no! She "Volunteered" Once again, if you don't know what went down, you shouldn't say anything, Period!
no, i'm being serious. i haven't heard anything from the P9 group about trying to make it happen. so that being the case, and nothing is at P24, it looks like NOW is a better time to try and save HRP... at least, i think so.

[udrivecrap]

She "VOLUNTEERED" to get the Face Time with all the TV cameras present. HAna and Apo.

What the cameras failed to show ( As ALWAYS ) the aftermath. Failing HB 567 and more.
so, nobody "asked" Colleen for help? she volunteered?

dam, that's a red flag on the play...

[punishum]

so, nobody "asked" Colleen for help? she volunteered?

dam, that's a red flag on the play...

You're a little Slo aren't you. Actually a LOT

But you seem Auweiiight :rolleyes:

[udrivecrap]

hey.... its hard to go fast when udrivecrap :D

[dirt racer]

no, i'm being serious. i haven't heard anything from the P9 group about trying to make it happen. so that being the case, and nothing is at P24, it looks like NOW is a better time to try and save HRP... at least, i think so.

Well great, since you mentioned it there is an ongoing effort to save HRP. For anyone that wants to help they can go to Ron's and sign the petition. And there's a rally planned for this Sunday 10/18 in front of Honolulu Hale. And you can send an email to Councilman Apo and tell him you want to save the old track. tapo@honolulu.gov

[udrivecrap]

hmmm... ok. thanks for the info. kinda short notice, though.

[udrivecrap]

LOL.. is this a setup?

i had this funny thought of me being the only one there.. hahahahaha

[Dirt Devil]

Being in control of the dirt hill, losing money and talking bubbles is more important than accomplishing anything.

Who you talkin about, the man with a plan the potable tolets guy
evryboddy sole there cars already

[punishum]

Well great, since you mentioned it there is an ongoing effort to save HRP. For anyone that wants to help they can go to Ron's and sign the petition. And there's a rally planned for this Sunday 10/18 in front of Honolulu Hale. And you can send an email to Councilman Apo and tell him you want to save the old track. tapo@honolulu.gov

And who is the master mind of this Save HRP plan?

The dirt people will go out of their way to stop this.

Large and In Charge even if there is nothing happening other than deceit and lies.

Sure Apo will get behind it because he has visions of being Mayor as he knows the other 8 council members will kill it anyway so he can still look like, "Well, I tried."

So he can get the few racers votes.

The BIG question now is, did the Dems talk Mufi out of running against Abercrombie or if Mr. Rail will throw his hat into the Congress mix with Hana over there. The Waianae Vote where they both carried well is not in the 1st District. AND it would be to Kamikaze for Mufi to run against Hirono.

Stay tuned as "The Stomach Churns".

Next year is going to be GREAT because a lot of those POLITICIANs who have been thorns in the racing communities sides can be made into the most dreaded thing all politicians fear most. BEING A CIVILIAN Again. MuuHAHAHAHahahaha :rolleyes:

[dirt racer]

The dirt people will go out of their way to stop this.


I think most of the dirt people would support saving HRP. There will only be a few idiots against it, just like last time.


Sure Apo will get behind it because he has visions of being Mayor as he knows the other 8 council members will kill it anyway so he can still look like, "Well, I tried."

So he can get the few racers votes.


If Apo does save the track, he's got my vote for mayor and a big fat check for his campaign. That goes for anyone else who saves HRP. Odds are though there won't ever be another track on Oahu.

[punishum]

I think most of the dirt people would support saving HRP. There will only be a few idiots against it, just like last time.

The Dirt People I was referring to is Jr BOI and his group. Jr BOI will stop any and ALL efforts to revive HRP or any other track to perpetuate ( to preserve from extinction or oblivion ) akaDirt Gate or now known in its present situation Operation Plant Grass.

The dirt racers or any other racers/group NOT going show up ANYWAY. They ALWAYS depend on someone else to do all the GRUNT WORK.

If Apo does save the track, he's got my vote for mayor and a big fat check for his campaign. That goes for anyone else who saves HRP. Odds are though there won't ever be another track on Oahu.

INTRODUCING a BILL and PASSING a BILL is totally 2 different things. Never HAPPEN.
I guarantee your money will collect dust because there will be no legitimate takers.

What needs to happen is to get them ALL out and start FRESH.

Elections can be VERY cleansing EVENTs.

[udrivecrap]

wait now.. lets get something straight. if there is going to be a rally, i don't wanna see racers wanting to beef with other racers. you know what happens, these politicians and reporters run away and lock the doors while the racing groups destroy each other in a flurry.

do that, no matter what party is in control, and we will be discussing the no track issue when we find out all the rail money we've been paying is gone to "expenses".. years from now. :(

[dirt racer]

wait now.. lets get something straight. if there is going to be a rally, i don't wanna see racers wanting to beef with other racers. you know what happens, these politicians and reporters run away and lock the doors while the racing groups destroy each other in a flurry.

do that, no matter what party is in control, and we will be discussing the no track issue when we find out all the rail money we've been paying is gone to "expenses".. years from now. :(

The rally is really more of a petition drive. Someone will be out in front of Honolulu Hale from 10 am to 6 pm this coming Sunday. There probably won't be that many people there at one time.

Even if I saw the rail completed and running with my own eyes, I still wouldn't believe it was real. :eek: :eek: :eek:

[punishum]

i don't wanna see racers wanting to beef with other racers.

As the Ole saying goes Davy,"You are the COMPANY you KEEP."

You still shaken up from standing to close to Sink Boi when some bodily injury was headed his way. :rolleyes:

It seems to be a theme with that Sink Boi. Heard the same thing was going to happen to him at his 4th of July event this past summer too.

Hmmmmm, Now why is that? There is a theme going on here. Why would those type of things keep occurring with regularity?

Remember Davy, I did warn you about The Company You Keep that your track record Sux :confused:

You seem like a nice guy, you just may be in the wrong place at the right time. My suggestion, Don't Play Hero. I don't think Sink Boi was ever given a formal "Welcome to Hawaii" greeting from some Local Bruddahs yet :D

Ask your buddy Jokey how that one goes. He knows from 1st hand experience.

[Hawaiian turbo]

The rally is really more of a petition drive. Someone will be out in front of Honolulu Hale from 10 am to 6 pm this coming Sunday. There probably won't be that many people there at one time.

Even if I saw the rail completed and running with my own eyes, I still wouldn't believe it was real. :eek: :eek: :eek:


Why wasn't there any advertising about this? Or did I not hear anything?

[punishum]

Why wasn't there any advertising about this? Or did I not hear anything?

It is an "UNderground" movement by an individual that just came to light literally a few days ago.

[Hawaiian turbo]

OIC.... I talked to someone at Ron's and they knew nothing about this.

[udrivecrap]

oh i get it... UNderground..

you guys are digging a tunnel under the building to get the key to HRP?

nice... that's a brilliant plan. :D is Tom Cruise involved in this? he'd be a great one to contact..

[punishum]

oh i get it... UNderground..

you guys are digging a tunnel under the building to get the key to HRP?

nice... that's a brilliant plan. :D is Tom Cruise involved in this? he'd be a great one to contact..

Hey Davy, how much do you wanna BET ( pennies DON'T count ) or in this case, how much can you afford to lose that Monkeys will
FLY OUTTA Sink Boi's butt before you are involved with ANY group that will have any type of LEGAL RACING on ANY VENUE?

SCCA Solo 2 is NOT "RACING" :rolleyes: Drags, Drift, Circle, Wheel 2 Wheel. AND someone's back yard for a ONE OFF,, Illegal Mud Bog
Does NOT count either.

i agree.. what a story. you should document it, the whole thing, with an unbiased professional opinion. i know you could do it, i seen you on tv before.

I never put WORDs in anybody's mouths. I never said,"There will be NO 1/4 Mile." or "I am not the SELLER of HRP . . "

They all LIED it OUTTA their OWN MOUTHS and I backed it up with FACTUAL documents.

You wanna talk about creative editing? Saying something was happening at P24 on my January special, NOW THAT took some creative editing to make LIES look like some RACING was GONNA HAPPEN by February.

As the saying goes, "Birds of a Feather . . . " same goes for LOSERS, Davy Boi. NO HONOR Amongst Thieves . . . and LIARS :rolleyes:

AND the BRAINLESS SHEEP who FOLLOW them BLINDLY, not mentioning any names . . . Davy :D

[udrivecrap]

Hey Davy, how much do you wanna BET ( pennies DON'T count ) or in this case, how much can you afford to lose that Monkeys will
FLY OUTTA Sink Boi's butt before you are involved with ANY group that will have any type of LEGAL RACING on ANY VENUE?

SCCA Solo 2 is NOT "RACING" :rolleyes: Drags, Drift, Circle, Wheel 2 Wheel. AND someone's back yard for a ONE OFF,, Illegal Mud Bog
Does NOT count either.
oh come on... i can't bet you, i'd just be taking your money... we all know butt monkeys don't fly.

SCCA/SOLO II is racing, i've been racing against myself for almost 1 year now :D
I never put WORDs in anybody's mouths. I never said,"There will be NO 1/4 Mile." or "I am not the SELLER of HRP . . "

They all LIED it OUTTA their OWN MOUTHS and I backed it up with FACTUAL documents.

You wanna talk about creative editing? Saying something was happening at P24 on my January special, NOW THAT took some creative editing to make LIES look like some RACING was GONNA HAPPEN by February.
no, i wasn't talking about creative editing.. i was thinking more how it would be a cool soap opera... like that old show Dynasty :eek:

As the saying goes, "Birds of a Feather . . . " same goes for LOSERS, Davy Boi. NO HONOR Amongst Thieves . . . and LIARS :rolleyes:

AND the BRAINLESS SHEEP who FOLLOW them BLINDLY, not mentioning any names . . . Davy :D
don't be confused about me... i'm not following P24.. its too confusing, they lost me back when Auntie and Uncle were locked out of the gate. :eek:

[punishum]

WTF, its like a morgue in here :confused:

Almost as bad as as NOT picking up the Permits cause U can't afford them :rolleyes:

[udrivecrap]

i dunno what you are talking about with the permits.

we can play almost as bad as.. lets try it out..

ALMOST AS BAD AS..

..restoring a 67 camaro without any papers

..brushing your teeth without any toothpaste

..turning your underwear inside out because you didn't wash any

..jumping into a pool with no water

..building a care home with 30" doorways

..closing a racetrack before you buy a new one :eek: :D

..saving a racetrack on a furlough day :eek: :D

..wanting to buy a freeway so you can close it whenever you want to

..Mufi running for govenor

..Ambercrombie smoking pot with everyone

..drinking random beer that's on sale

..building a drag race car when there is no track to run it on

..starting your race engine without any oil and wondering what that ticking noise is

..ordering a big mac at burger king

..trying to use your EBT to buy 24" rims


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

ok who's next?

[punishum]

i dunno what you are talking about with the permits.

we can play almost as bad as.. lets try it out..

ALMOST AS BAD AS..

..restoring a 67 camaro without any papers

Heard that one too many times

..brushing your teeth without any toothpaste

Nope, heard my uncle grabbed the Brylcreem by mistake.

..turning your underwear inside out because you didn't wash any

Hasn't every GUY :rolleyes:

..jumping into a pool with no water

Skateboarded in a pool w/ no water.

..building a care home with 30" doorways

A brother of somoeone we know is trying to build one in my district. Don't know if it will have 30 doors. ;)

..closing a racetrack before you buy a new one :eek: :D

You hung out with the Asshole :mad:

..saving a racetrack on a furlough day :eek: :D

Actually it was a Monday Holiday, the state capitol, a car show on the lawn and a tax credit. No ONE was HOME, almost as smart as the rest of his tactics :eek:

..wanting to buy a freeway so you can close it whenever you want to

Wasn't that the H-3?:p

..Mufi running for govenor

If the Villoria fight was any indication, the entire Blaisdell Arena "BOOO'd" Mr. Rail when he was introduced. :eek:

..Ambercrombie smoking pot with everyone

Must have been w/ Clintoon. And they "BOTH" didn't "INHale" :rolleyes:

..drinking random beer that's on sale

Haven't U had Ur fill of Ole Milwaukee and Keystone hanging out w/ Mr. Track Seller / Tax Credit Man :confused: :confused:

..building a drag race car when there is no track to run it on

Isn't Everybody ;)

..starting your race engine without any oil and wondering what that ticking noise is

Yeah, i hear that one shop is famous for doing that one :rolleyes:

..ordering a big mac at burger king

WELL, can't U have it YOUR Way ? ? ? :rolleyes:

..trying to use your EBT to buy 24" rims

What. No Can Do that? :rolleyes: Can BuY Lobster though :D



:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

ok who's next?

And da next Quote stay, Drum roll please: We stay working on it, We jus gotta replant da Grass Li Dat and go pick up Da permit and All Ready 4 Go Li' dat :D

[udrivecrap]

hahahaha... i thought you'd might find the racetrack ones amusing :D

[udrivecrap]

hey guys, guess what... i found out OMAC and practically everyone else (except a few) banned themselves from this website and that's why its so dead in here. :(

might have something to do with the whole killing the new racetrack thing :rolleyes: ... :confused:

i'm sorry to bring bad news but look on the bright side... at least you guys got me to talk to.. hahaha :D

[punishum]

hey guys, guess what... i found out OMAC and practically everyone else (except a few) banned themselves from this website and that's why its so dead in here. :(

might have something to do with the whole killing the new racetrack thing :rolleyes: ... :confused:

i'm sorry to bring bad news but look on the bright side... at least you guys got me to talk to.. hahaha :D

Killing WHAT new Racetrack thingy Dave?

Idiots who would rather HEAR Lies instead of FACING UP to the TRUTH?

They never bothered my anyway as TALKING -N- LYING about DOING SOMETHING is a LOT different than DOING, which everybody else's track record IS.

Shit talkers ALWAYS Hates Doers. Seems to make them LOOK Bad.

But hey, IF that is the case, why do they still look in, and by DROVES I might add. Hmmmmmmmmm

[udrivecrap]

Killing WHAT new Racetrack thingy Dave?

Idiots who would rather HEAR Lies instead of FACING UP to the TRUTH?
actually, racers are not idiots.. most describe a small vocal group when referring to the original SORT. even though the administration wasn't going to let P9 happen, the park owners did what they could to try and push it.. it was a long shot but by carrying signs and yelling "FUMO" can only leave a bystander to deduct that there is some negativity and opposition there. thus creating the illusion that the small vocal group was responsible for "killing" the effort. i know who the puppet master was but most people don't. this will all transfer to P24 as well if nothing happens, possibly all other efforts because of the impact it made in the community.
They never bothered my anyway as TALKING -N- LYING about DOING SOMETHING is a LOT different than DOING, which everybody else's track record IS.

Shit talkers ALWAYS Hates Doers. Seems to make them LOOK Bad
i agree... except on the everybody else's track record part.
But hey, IF that is the case, why do they still look in, and by DROVES I might add. Hmmmmmmmmm
because i'm so popular and people want to see what kind stupid sh*t i going post next :D .. that or Les is clicking on the thread a million times to boost view counts. hahahaha

A man came to visit his grandparents, and he noticed his grandfather sitting on the porch, in the rocking chair, wearing only a shirt, with nothing on from the waist down.

"Grandpa, what are you doing? Your weenie is out in the wind for everyone to see!" he exclaimed. The old man looked off in the distance without answering.

"Grandpa, what are you doing sitting out here with
nothing on below the waist?" he asked again.

The old man slowly looked at him and said,
"Well....last week I sat out here with no shirt on,
and I got a stiff neck.

....This is your grandma's idea."
:D :D :D :D

[punishum]

Hey Davy,

Let me leave you with this one.

You want to know what is the DIFFERENCE between a WINNER and a LOSER Davy Boi?

WINNERS will OCCASIONALLY have an off year. Were as LOSERS will OCCASIONALLY have a GOOD 1.

LYING is never the ANSWER and YOU Davy along with everybody else fall for the SNAKE OIL pitch EVERY TIME.

Because YOU ALWAYS and I MEAN ALWAYS want some body else other than YOUR Pathetic SELVES to do the WORK.

While YOU ALL Sit back and reap the benefits.

[udrivecrap]

wait a minute.. you know how community involvement is, but if ALL of the pathetic people wanted to do the work... wtf would they do? carry signs and sing songs on their free time? or everybody try to purchase or lease the same damn property? :D hahaha

as far as benefits goes... if a track opens and its like $140 just to run down the 1/4 mile.. i'm not sure how much of a "benefit" that would be to the racer. i would be like sh*t.. $140 to run? that's too expensive... ok then, that was fun, see you next weekend.. ROFL

[punishum]

Dave, WTF are U talking about?

You make Absolutely, "NO SENSE" . . .

YOU can't even afford decent beer much less AFFORD to PAY ATTENTION.

What a MORON

[punishum]

And Congratulations to Tony the "Shcu" for winning the 2009 Top Fuel World Championship. After AJ screwed DSR. Serves them right, Karma is a "BITCH".

And to Hector Arana. The "FIRST" minority to win an NHRA World Championship in Pro Stock motorcycle.

Mistake, sorry. Tony Pedregon did it in funny car. My bad.