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dirt racer
06-11-2007, 09:08 AM
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Jun/11/ln/FP706110354.html


Posted on: Monday, June 11, 2007
Are O'ahu racers back on track in Kalaeloa?

By Gordon Y.K. Pang
Advertiser West O'ahu Writer

A temporary race track could become a reality in Kalaeloa within months under a tentative deal reached between the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands and the group Save O'ahu's Race Track.

O'ahu motor enthusiasts have been left without a place to race legally since Hawai'i Raceway Park shut down at nearby Campbell Industrial Park just over a year ago. O'ahu is the only major island in the Hawaiian chain without a raceway and the lack of a facility has spawned a rivalry between two groups of former users who have been at odds over the future of racing on the island.

SORT spokeswoman Evelyn Souza said the 35-acre portion of what's known as Parcel 24, which is on the 'Ewa side of the former Barbers Point Naval Air Station, is a good pit stop on the road to a permanent solution.

"Right now, it's overgrown with haole koa and kiawe but it looks like a diamond in the rough," Souza said.

The group expects to have a month-to-month lease with DHHL finalized in the next few weeks and have a track in place by the end of summer, Souza said.

The cost of the lease is still under negotiation, DHHL Director Micah Kane said. Souza said work done by volunteers, who will clear the brush on the land, is a consideration in the negotiating.

"There's going to be a mutual benefit since they're clearing the property," Kane said. "We're trying to be good neighbors by providing them with some relief while they're looking for a permanent track."

The first phase, which will cost about $175,000, will consist of an oval dirt track for stock cars, dirt bikes and ATVs. It may also include a mud bog, Souza said.

The second phase would feature asphalt venues and include a drag strip, as well as accommodations for drifters and Sports Car Club of America racing, she said. That phase is expected to cost about $1 million.

Les Vallarano, a SORT member who races an Indy car, said he and other enthusiasts have had nowhere to go since Hawaii Raceway Park shut down.

"Now, finally we'll have some place we can race legally," said Vallarano, 45. "It gives the young people an outlet for the hobby without racing or drifting on the street."

Souza said her group is looking at different means of financing the improvements. SORT hopes to have racing there for at least two years to allow the group to recoup its costs, she said.

The nonprofit organization has been trying to get the city to undertake condemnation proceedings to acquire the old Hawaii Raceway Park, several miles away, so that it can be reopened as a race track. The park shut down last year and has since been sold to a developer who has other plans for the 66-acre site.

The City Council is preparing to hear resolutions that would designate the site of the old Hawaii Raceway Park as a recreation area, condemn it and buy it at market value.

Souza said there has been no discussion with DHHL about making the arrangement on the Kalaeloa site a permanent one. Getting the old raceway park reopened is still her group's bigger interest.

"That would be a leap for us to even imagine because we are quite content with what we have," she said. "But who's to know? It is recreational property, it does suit the needs of the community, and if nobody objects to us staying there, why not?"

Kane however, said he doesn't see the arrangement becoming permanent.

The vegetation on the site is "a blessing in disguise" because it will cut down on noise from the racers, Souza said. And because the facility will not have electricity, there won't be any lights for night racing, she said.

The site, at the corner of Coral Sea and Tripoli, is about a mile from a housing complex formerly owned by the Navy and now rented out to civilians.

Sen. Mike Gabbard, R-19th (Kapolei, Makakilo, Waikele), lives in the Kalaeloa subdivision and said he supports the project. "There are thousands of racing enthusiasts, so it's definitely good news if there's going to be at least a temporary racetrack facility in our district," he said.

Gabbard said he does not believe noise will be a problem.

Meanwhile, a spokesman for the Oahu Motorsports Advisory Council said his group has mixed feelings about the impending deal between SORT and DHHL. Michael Kitchens said his group supported former owners of the raceway park, headed by developer Tom Enomoto, in their quest to obtain a separate property in Kalaeloa, about 139 acres known as Parcel 9, for a permanent track.

Negotiations between the Enomoto group and DHHL involved having the development group swap a piece of land for the Kalaeloa property, which is leased to a storage company for $480,000 a year.

"We are disappointed with the fact that DHHL has not been receptive to the developer's attempts to complete the land exchange," Kitchens said. "As far as SORT's temporary site, we are comfortable and happy they were able to acquire something as far as racing is concerned. Our goal is a permanent and safer multi-purpose facility that can support racing's current and future growth."

Kane said the Enomoto group has never offered property that meets his agency's goal to provide homesteads for Hawaiian beneficiaries. DHHL did not approach the Enomoto group about taking over Parcel 24 because "the ... group has never pursued a temporary parcel," he said. "They've always pursued a permanent land disposition and have never presented a parcel that met our liking that would fit a land exchange."

Enomoto was not available for comment last week.

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straightliner
06-11-2007, 11:25 AM
Enomoto :rolleyes: Another one :rolleyes: all talk no walk :rolleyes:

punishum
06-11-2007, 11:45 AM
Congrats, now the cats OUT of the Bag ! ! And this is just the beggining.

I can tell you this much for sure. Mr. Enomoto does "NOT" appreciate his name being thrown around out there like that.
Especially when it is NOT true.

Mr. Kitchens had tried to get a hold of Mr. Enomoto just before the BTT event and he did "NOT" return Kithchens calls. As a matter of fact Mr. Enomoto was quite upset that Kitchens kept sending him pictures all weekend long that clogged up his email box and legitimate emails could not get through.

Look all you MOMAC people, Mr. Enomoto wants all of you to "CUT IT OUT", what you are doing has not helped his cause and he wants this to S-T-O-P and S-T-O-P NOW! !

This is coming from Mr. Enomoto himself whom I met with last week for breakfast and he instructed me to say he is
"NOT" pleased and to PLEASE stop what you all are doing ! !

Do you see him being reached for comment to the media or actually talking to any of you MOMAC people?

HE is a grown man and can speak for himself and does NOT need what you think is help is actually doing the exact opposite ! !

You are not his partner and he does "NOT" approve what you are doing.

punishum
06-11-2007, 12:00 PM
Enomoto :rolleyes: Another one :rolleyes: all talk no walk :rolleyes:

BE fair straightliner, that is NOT true. Mr. Enomoto does not appreciate what MOMAC is doing. When you hear it from Mr. Enomoto then you can believe it, if not it is all hearsay.

Mr. Enomoto was always the developer and Oakland was the front man. Some where along the way Mr. Oakland took it upon himself to say he was the developer and went rogue. Oakland made things so public and spoke about things that were not happening. Oakland wanted it so badly that deception was the only tool at his disposal. Oakland had at this time last year let everything get so out of control and in such a bad light that the damage was irreversible and thus here we are today. Mr. Enomoto distrusts the media that is why he never said anything.

If only Mr. Enomoto had the foresight to have taken Mr. Oakland out of his post a long time ago we may have avoided this situation all together.

We would have had a more friendlier management which would have equated to happier racers which would have brought in more spectators and HRP would still be open and none of us would be bitter today choosing sides.

Just imagine . . . .

kimdn
06-11-2007, 02:56 PM
HE is a grown man and can speak for himself and does NOT need what you think is help is actually doing the exact opposite ! !


I love to play devil's advocate so I have to point this out. If he can speak for himself, why are you speaking for him? Don't get me wrong it just seems odd for you to be his messenger if he doesn't need one.

Where is the $ coming from for the dirt track and asphalt? Ah never mind, I hate the politics of it all. Just get something going so I have a new place to ride my dirt bike. No road course though huh....:(

dirt racer
06-11-2007, 03:10 PM
No road course though huh....:(

"accommodations for drifters and Sports Car Club of America racing"

I think that loosely translates to "road course". Probably attached to the drag strip return road, hence the debate thread.

straightliner
06-11-2007, 03:16 PM
For years we've heard Enomoto was backing Oakland. Then we heard he's backing P9 and OMAC. Now something else?????:confused:

The man needs to DROP THE HOWARD HUGHES SYNDROME ALREADY.

If SORT is going to have a meeting maybe he should stand up and speak for himself on where he stands IN FRONT OF EVERYONE. Not have lunch with this person or that person. Or breakfast. Or dinner. Or midnight snack. :mad:

dirt racer
06-11-2007, 03:36 PM
For years we've heard Enomoto was backing Oakland. Then we heard he's backing P9 and OMAC. Now something else?????:confused:

The man needs to DROP THE HOWARD HUGHES SYNDROME ALREADY.

If SORT is going to have a meeting maybe he should stand up and speak for himself on where he stands IN FRONT OF EVERYONE. Not have lunch with this person or that person. Or breakfast. Or dinner. Or midnight snack. :mad:

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Actually what he should do is issue some sort of statement to the press in writing setting the record straight.

The funny thing is, DHHL has said for the past 9 months that they didn't have any offers or negotiations with the "developers". Yet OMAC has been claiming, and continues to claim, that there are negotiations and an offer on the table.

Then we hear from the "developer" that he has not been working on the project for some time. I wonder who's lying? :rolleyes:

punishum
06-11-2007, 06:59 PM
HE is a grown man and can speak for himself and does NOT need what you think is help is actually doing the exact opposite ! !


I love to play devil's advocate so I have to point this out. If he can speak for himself, why are you speaking for him? Don't get me wrong it just seems odd for you to be his messenger if he doesn't need one.

Where is the $ coming from for the dirt track and asphalt? Ah never mind, I hate the politics of it all. Just get something going so I have a new place to ride my dirt bike. No road course though huh....:(

As a matter of fact I just came from his office a little while ago. Mr. Enomoto doesn't even know who all of you are. That is even more funny . . . Huh?

You know where the money is coming from for P 24? Paradise Lua, Souza Painting, RMS, PunishUM, Millilani Repair etc., etc., etc. + tons of SORT supporters "Sweat Equity", remember? The benefit luaus, Zippy's chili, School Kine cookies :D

Going to be fun without all the whinners for once. Except the wind through the Koa trees.

Kind of funny don't you think? A lot of men without an island or a pot to piss in. Tsk, tsk . . .

dirt racer
06-11-2007, 07:10 PM
How about getting a PayPal account where everyone can donate, like at HawaiiTalks?

"Click here to donate to the new track!" :D

SM2-MSM
06-11-2007, 10:59 PM
"accommodations for drifters and Sports Car Club of America racing"

I think that loosely translates to "road course". Probably attached to the drag strip return road, hence the debate thread.

Very nice, it would probably be like a short course HRP?
I would like it to go around the burn out boxes if possible though, I think a lot of us know what it's like to go through VHT and rubber marbles.

dirt racer
06-12-2007, 12:36 PM
Joined: 11 Jun 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: Concerned resident of Kalaeloa!

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In response to Senator Mike Gabbard's comment, that he doesn't believe the noise factor would be a problem for this temporary solution, to open Kalaeloa (formerly known as Barbers Point) up for racers is out right insane. Not only will it be noisy....the traffic in & out will be more insane. Is he considering traffic as a problem for us residents? Although I empathize with the racing community, there's got to be a better place than Kalaeloa. I assure you, you're going to have an angry community when they open up Kalaeloa temporarily for the racers. As it stands, the everyday commute during traffic hours, it takes a good 20-30 minutes to get in & out of Kalaeloa. Residents of Ewa Beach use our road to get home, that's mainly why our traffic is so bad. With no traffic it takes less than 10 minutes coming off of the freeway. Now add the racers to the mix, and residents won't be getting home for at least an hour. I assure you, I worked in Campbell Industrial, and I've seen the kind of traffic that this type of venue generates. It’s not going to be pretty. If residents of Kalaeloa are not going to be considered, than maybe we need to elect better representation in our community. That goes for every state/council member on board now! I wish the racing community all the best in finding a permanent solution. One suggestion: expand Central Oahu Regional Park (C.O.R.P.)....for a raceway park. It's got every thing else. Why not a raceway park? Traffic in/out from there will be far less a nuisance than what the impact it will have in Kalaeloa.

This was posted on the Advertiser Board. No matter where we go we are going to run into NIMBYs. Same like what happened with the Stadium Drifting. I like his idea of using the regional park as a racetrack. That could be a true World Class Facility in a beautiful 300 acre setting. Never gonna happen though. :(

punishum
06-12-2007, 01:12 PM
Very nice, it would probably be like a short course HRP?
I would like it to go around the burn out boxes if possible though, I think a lot of us know what it's like to go through VHT and rubber marbles.

Ahhhhhhh . . . . Wouldn't it be nice if it were that easy? You just ask an "Poofff " . . . . There you go.
Unfortunately this isn't "Burger King" and not everybody will be able to "Have it Their Way".

All because of a pesky little thing called $ $ $ $ $ $ $, and lots of it.

If you think building your car or bike is expensive, you have no idea how expensive it will be to build a track from scratch.

I hope as many ideas that come up, many will also open up their pocket books to help as well as the "Sweat Equity".
Then we'll see who is real.

Then maybe you might be able to "Have it Your Way" .

I remember seeing this sticker on a car at a car show once "Ass, Gas or Grass, NO One Rides for Free."

Like I always said," Remember the Chicken Story."

dirt racer
06-17-2007, 12:10 PM
Very nice, it would probably be like a short course HRP?
I would like it to go around the burn out boxes if possible though, I think a lot of us know what it's like to go through VHT and rubber marbles.

Yes, we remember all the junk in turn 7. Perhaps instead of going around the burnout area, it's best to enter the dragstrip further down from the return road side and avoid the burnout area altogether.

Very much like the short course indeed. The layout of the lot pretty much dictates that. :rolleyes:

SM2-MSM
06-18-2007, 08:36 PM
Ahhhhhhh . . . . Wouldn't it be nice if it were that easy? You just ask an "Poofff " . . . . There you go.
Unfortunately this isn't "Burger King" and not everybody will be able to "Have it Their Way".

All because of a pesky little thing called $ $ $ $ $ $ $, and lots of it.

If you think building your car or bike is expensive, you have no idea how expensive it will be to build a track from scratch.

I hope as many ideas that come up, many will also open up their pocket books to help as well as the "Sweat Equity".
Then we'll see who is real.

Then maybe you might be able to "Have it Your Way" .

I remember seeing this sticker on a car at a car show once "Ass, Gas or Grass, NO One Rides for Free."

Like I always said," Remember the Chicken Story."

Wow dude, just making a suggestion. Of course I know it's gonna be a whole lot of money, I'm not gonna dog you about not making it "My Way"
Tact would be helpful.

prk247
09-05-2007, 05:55 PM
LOL :eek: :rolleyes: