The Propaganda Sites

[dirt racer]

I see the MO Misinformation Trolls are hard at work at FH...

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/mobsashardracer.jpg

For the record, HRP did not get rezoned or pass 3rd reading. It only passed out of committee. With a 17 year old EIS and 2 members voting against, doesn't look too good. No wonder the Zoning Chair asked for an extension. Perhaps that's why MO is trying sooooo hard with his BS? :eek:

P24 is coming along nicely. The D9 is gassed up and just waiting on the clearing permit. :D

[Chad89GT]

Thanks for clearing up the rumor about P24. Don't forget these quotes as well ;)


That's the "rumor". Maybe Jeanette can chime in and set us straight before this rumor gets out of hand.



Thats why I said it was only a rumor... until we hear more...

I hope its not true... because people have been putting cars back together already!

Best of luck on P24. Look out for sink holes! :p

[Need4Speed]

P24 is coming along nicely. The D9 is gassed up and just waiting on the clearing permit.

How did the presentation go for SORT at the HCDA meeting? Any comments for your readers?

[dirt racer]

How did the presentation go for SORT at the HCDA meeting? Any comments for your readers?

The presentation was postponed. Probably do it next month.

PunishUM had a good meeting with the LG today. ;)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/100_7117.jpg

[prk247]

The presentation was postponed. Probably do it next month.

PunishUM had a good meeting with the LG today. ;)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/100_7117.jpg

wheres tracys left hand? and why is duke smiling so big? :eek:

[Need4Speed]

You should always smile when having your picture taken :D

Why was the presentation postponed? What problem did you encounter?

[dirt racer]

You should always smile when having your picture taken :D

Why was the presentation postponed? What problem did you encounter?

I don't believe there was any problem. SORT is looking at acquiring another DHHL Parcel in addition to P24. I guess they want to hold off the presentation until the other deal has been finalized.

[Need4Speed]

That is a problem. Will this delay the opening of the dirt track on Parcel 24?

I also read on the other site that you might be trying to get Parcel 9. I thought you said the idea was a joke. Unless that is not the other parcel you are talking about.

[dirt racer]

That is a problem. Will this delay the opening of the dirt track on Parcel 24?

I also read on the other site that you might be trying to get Parcel 9. I thought you said the idea was a joke. Unless that is not the other parcel you are talking about.

Postponing the presentation should will not cause any delay. My understanding from Pasha and DHHL is that they are negotiating a long term lease for Parcel 9.
PunishUM does plan to use the site for storing the international drift teams' equipment before and after the event (through Pasha).

I think someone was pulling your leg on the other site. ;)

[dirt racer]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/duhdave.jpg

Excuse me Duh Dave, you'd better go read through it again. ;)

I hear many people that proclaim "we could have had Parcel 9 if it wasn't for SORT". That is total bullshit. We were never going to have Parcel 9 for racing. Period. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just plain stupid. :mad:

[prk247]

does that include fudge packer who was the one that implied sort was trying to aquire parcel 9? funny how you dont show screen shots of that..

[prk247]

http://a64.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/109/l_f6c6a8f9ca8e973ee4f69f6dedfc75e7.jpg
http://a789.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_9ba8aa266f54c44e974d7d562b55555c.jpg

[prk247]

would you care to comment on that dirt bag?

[dirt racer]

would you care to comment on that dirt bag?

You all (except maybe Chad) are obviously too stupid to realize when you're being fucked with. Me and Mud had a good laugh about it. :D

Edit: On second thought, better include Chad in there too. :rolleyes:

[Mud Packer]

does that include fudge packer who was the one that implied sort was trying to aquire parcel 9? funny how you dont show screen shots of that..

"Trying" to acquire Par 9? Learn how to read you dumb hillbilly. I said it was being offered to SORT.

[prk247]

"Trying" to acquire Par 9? Learn how to read you dumb hillbilly. I said it was being offered to SORT.

the point was acquisition. not who was offering it. dip shit.

[prk247]

You all (except maybe Chad) are obviously too stupid to realize when you're being fucked with. Me and Mud had a good laugh about it. :D

Edit: On second thought, better include Chad in there too. :rolleyes:

no body believes a word you or fudge say. dont kid yourselves.

[Mud Packer]

no body believes a word you or fudge say. dont kid yourselves.

Then we"ll just have to see, wont we, haus?

[Need4Speed]

Postponing the presentation should will not cause any delay. My understanding from Pasha and DHHL is that they are negotiating a long term lease for Parcel 9.
PunishUM does plan to use the site for storing the international drift teams' equipment before and after the event (through Pasha).

I think someone was pulling your leg on the other site.

"Trying" to acquire Par 9? Learn how to read you dumb hillbilly. I said it was being offered to SORT.
Parcel 9 is being offered to SORT for storage or for racing? From Pasha or DHHL?

[dirt racer]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/dirt_racer/davetalkingshit1.jpg

Why yes Dave, we will make sure and forward your comments to Mr. Kane as an official OMAC supporter. :eek:

[Need4Speed]

I do have to admit :D that guy is pretty funny

I suppose you don't want to comment on the previous statements regarding Parcel 9

[dirt racer]

I do have to admit :D that guy is pretty funny

I suppose you don't want to comment on the previous statements regarding Parcel 9

SORT is not trying to acquire Parcel 9. Tell Rob or whoever said that, they need to find a new "source".

[prk247]

SORT is not trying to acquire Parcel 9. Tell Rob or whoever said that, they need to find a new "source".

FUDGE said that. not rob or anyone else. and no one believed him. thats why they were asking for comment from sort on one of its retarded sheep's claims.

[dirt racer]

FUDGE said that. not rob or anyone else. and no one believed him.

Dave obviously believed it, and then went berzerk. So, it had the desired effect. :D

"I do have to admit :D that guy is pretty funny"

[Mud Packer]

FUDGE said that. not rob or anyone else. and no one believed him. thats why they were asking for comment from sort on one of its retarded sheep's claims.
Hey Prick, just out of curiousity, do you eat jellybeans or smoke a cigarette after you shoot your load across Mike K's ass; just curious.

[prk247]

Hey Prick, just out of curiousity, do you eat jellybeans or smoke a cigarette after you shoot your load across Mike K's ass; just curious.

nope. after i shoot my load, i usually get right to work pulling the gerbil out. as long as you get it out quick enough, you can re-use it. if done correctly, one gerbil can last as long as 3 to 6 months. but im sure you already know that.. come to think about it, i believe i read it in your book "packing shit, and 50 other kinky ways to please your man". its truly a cult classic. keep up the great work.

[Mud Packer]

nope. after i shoot my load, i usually get right to work pulling the gerbil out. as long as you get it out quick enough, you can re-use it. if done correctly, one gerbil can last as long as 3 to 6 months. but im sure you already know that.. come to think about it, i believe i read it in your book "packing shit, and 50 other kinky ways to please your man". its truly a cult classic. keep up the great work.
I tell you what, when we (SORT) move over to Par 9, your gerbal is going to go on strike. Its nice to know that you read books about packing shit, when your the one getting your shit pushed in.

[Need4Speed]

SORT is not trying to acquire Parcel 9.
I tell you what, when we (SORT) move over to Par 9
Quite confusing, I suspect one of you is not telling the truth :(

[prk247]

I tell you what, when we (SORT) move over to Par 9, your gerbal is going to go on strike. Its nice to know that you read books about packing shit, when your the one getting your shit pushed in.

wow. tell you what. if you cant come up with insults like the rest of the kids, dont waddle your special olympic ass out onto the playground in the first place.. ;) :D

[Mud Packer]

wow. tell you what. if you cant come up with insults like the rest of the kids, dont waddle your special olympic ass out onto the playground in the first place.. ;) :D
Your humor reminds me of terminated part time comedians; dont get me wrong, I can insult you all day long.

[Mud Packer]

Quite confusing, I suspect one of you is not telling the truth :(
"Without confusion, life would be a gimme"

[Need4Speed]

Life is "gimme and takey" :D

Unfortunately :( most people want to take more than they give. That's alright because:

"Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth"

(MATTHEW 5:5). This well known statement of our Lord is taken

from the sermon on the mount; from the part some call "the

beatitudes". The word "meek" means to be gentle, humble or

considerate. It is the opposite of arrogance and violence. Those

who are willing to share and sacrifice in behalf of others are

meek. Those who seek for domination and will use any means to

trample and crush others are the opposite of what the Lord refers

to here.

Meekness does not mean weakness!

[Mud Packer]

Life is "gimme and takey" :D

Unfortunately :( most people want to take more than they give. That's alright because:

"Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth"

(MATTHEW 5:5). This well known statement of our Lord is taken

from the sermon on the mount; from the part some call "the

beatitudes". The word "meek" means to be gentle, humble or

considerate. It is the opposite of arrogance and violence. Those

who are willing to share and sacrifice in behalf of others are

meek. Those who seek for domination and will use any means to

trample and crush others are the opposite of what the Lord refers

to here.

Meekness does not mean weakness!

So, do we give away Par 24 so OMAC can receive Par 9? So whats your point?

[dirt racer]

So, do we give away Par 24 so OMAC can receive Par 9?

We should sell them Parcel 9. (cash only) :D

[Need4Speed]

So, do we give away Par 24 so OMAC can receive Par 9? So whats your point?

We should sell them Parcel 9. (cash only)

If you could, I'm sure you would ;)

[punishum]

Hey, I got a good bible passage for you, John 8:32 "And the truth shall set you free." Amen

[Need4Speed]

Nothing is free. Just don't write checks your soul can't cash.

[Mud Packer]

Nothing is free. Just don't write checks your soul can't cash.

Since we are on quotes, I've got one from the great poet, Andrew Dice Clay; "Little boy blew; he needed the money". Here's another one; "There was an old lady who lived in a shoe, she had so many kids, her uterus fell out".

[Need4Speed]

Soul for Sale - Discontinued Model - Half Price :cool:

[Mud Packer]

Soul for Sale - Discontinued Model - Half Price :cool:
And with the purchase, you will receive a special bonus gift!

[dirt racer]

Hey, I got a good bible passage for you,

I got one too, Revelation 6:8

"And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him."

[prk247]

And with the purchase, you will receive a special bonus gift!

a SORT membership!

[Need4Speed]

"Though I walk through the valley of no race tracks, I will fear no evil"

How much is a SORT membership?

[prk247]

How much is a SORT membership?

Free! but your only a "real" member if you donate your favorite politician on retainer to them..

[dirt racer]

Free! but your only a "real" member if you donate your favorite politician on retainer to them..

Hey that was a good post. Don't delete it! :D

[mike_w]

Please remember, Wilcox for City Council in 2010. :) :) :) :)

[dirt racer]

Please remember, Wilcox for City Council in 2010. :) :) :) :)

How about "Wilcox for Mayor in 2008" ? :rolleyes:

[Need4Speed]

Take some advice, if you run for office don't bring your personal agenda into it. It only slows down the turning wheels. Thanks.

[mike_w]

I've got a number of bands that have said they would love to play music at my next fund-raiser. :) :) :) :)


Oh yes, "Need4". There is may more important things than racing. How about fixing the things that we have already. Our roads are filled with potholes. Sewers and water pipes are falling apart. We can't fix those things. We need a multi-billion dollar rail system that won't be up and running for who knows how many years (decades?). :( :( :( :(

[Need4Speed]

There are slow moving efforts to fix those things you mention. The rail system or rapid transit is more of a symbol. It is just one more thing you can add to the list of why "Lucky you live Hawaii"

You are positively correct, there are many more important things besides racing. :cool:

[dirt racer]

You are positively correct, there are many more important things besides racing. :cool:

"When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting" - Steve McQueen

Lots of waiting on Oahu these days. :mad:

[dirt racer]

This is why I call them "Propaganda Sites" - the never ending bullshit continues...



Quote from: Bigisle87 on Yesterday at 06:22:17 PM
3)rumors are abound in this world, as everybody knows... there's one that has been bugging me since day one. did Mike give up the lease, chose not to renew it, or actively purchase and then re-sell the property from campbell estate under that confidentiality agreement. it's a year and a half later, and i just want to know if i got taken for a ride or not, and im sure many others would too.

The track closure is a complicated issue. There were MANY factors that contributed. Here they are in some resemblance of a logical progression:

* The track had been on short-term 5-year lease extensions since the early 90s when Campbell wanted to shut it down due to liability and useage compatibility with surrounding tenants issues. Campbell wanted the track gone but was sympathetic to the racers. They gave the lease extensions on the provision that a new, permanent location was being pursued.
* In 1994 or 1995, The HMC partnership had been working through the Barber's Point base closure process and had gotten P9 designated as a raceway park. Just prior to taking possession, DHHL swooped in under a 1996 law and claimed P9 as repayment for the Navy taking Lualualei back in the day.
* In 1998 or 1999 HMC sued DHHL for P9 and reached a settlement just before the case when to the appelate court. DHHL agreed to exchange P9 for land in Kunia.
* In 2002 the new Lingle administration came in and immediately put a hold on all deals so they could be reviewed. HMC waited patiently for 2 years while DHHL "reviewed" the exchange. They drug out negotiations and wrote letters back and forth for a while.
* While all this was going on, there was less than 2 years left on the lease and Campbell Estate was preparing to dissolve. Campbell was not going to renew the lease. As a longterm tenant, HMC was entitles to the 1st option to buy.
* In 2006 the Campbell Estate dissolved and was selling off assets. The HRP parcel was one slated to be sold. Rather than incur 10s of millions of dollars in debt on an outdated track, the HMC partnership decided to sell their option to buy the parcel to Irongate development. After all, they had an agreement with DHHL for the new location... didn't make sense to buy the old place too.


Some people like to quote the Campbell Estate spin that says they did not force HMC to leave, they HAD BEEN (past tense) offering lease extensions and the decision to leave was HMC's. Note in that carefully worded PR babble that it no where says the DID offer a lease extension... and yes HMC decided to leave because buying the place as a track didn't make financial sense when a better alternative was supposedly "in the bag".

Supposedly the main roadblock to the DHHL exchange was a personality conflict and past "history" between MO and some "high ups" within the Republican party. One guy was Bob Awana, Lingle's right hand... but he left the administration in disgrace (something about his girlfriend in the Phillipines (he's married, btw) who was pimping "escorts" for his friends... and some other scandals that were in the paper a while back). The next guy is Micah Kane, the director of DHHL... Bob's good buddy. Rather then butt heads and get no where, MO bowed out and let the other partners pursue the development.

Hope this helps,
Chad

[dirt racer]

This is why I call them "Propaganda Sites" - the never ending bullshit continues...

The track closure is a complicated issue.

No it's actually a very simple issue. The former leaseholders sold the purchase agreement to Irongate for $5 million dollars and left all the racers out on the street. Of course MO "said" he had nothing to do with the sale but we know now that was all B.S.

Campbell wanted the track gone but was sympathetic to the racers. They gave the lease extensions on the provision that a new, permanent location was being pursued.

Oh really? You have that in writing or did you just pull that out of your ass? How is it their spokesperson said they didn't ask HRP to leave and had been extending the lease?

"This is a decision made by Hawai'i Raceway Park and was not caused by
Campbell Estate," estate spokeswoman Theresia McMurdo said. "We have
not asked Hawai'i Raceway Park to leave and in fact we have been
extending the lease."

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/27/ln/FP601270359.html


* In 1994 or 1995, The HMC partnership had been working through the Barber's Point base closure process and had gotten P9 designated as a raceway park. Just prior to taking possession, DHHL swooped in under a 1996 law and claimed P9 as repayment for the Navy taking Lualualei back in the day.

Proof that Chad smokes pot.


* While all this was going on, there was less than 2 years left on the lease and Campbell Estate was preparing to dissolve. Campbell was not going to renew the lease. As a longterm tenant, HMC was entitles to the 1st option to buy.

Total lie - read the above quote from the Advertiser.


* In 2006 the Campbell Estate dissolved and was selling off assets. The HRP parcel was one slated to be sold. Rather than incur 10s of millions of dollars in debt on an outdated track, the HMC partnership decided to sell their option to buy the parcel to Irongate development. After all, they had an agreement with DHHL for the new location... didn't make sense to buy the old place too.


Oh really? You have documentation that shows HRP was "slated to be sold"? Total lie and fabrication. And HMC NEVER had an agreement for the DHHL parcel - their spokesman and administrator have stated this publicly in print media.

And 10's of millions of dollars? Try 13 million which is not a bad price for 66 acres with A TRACK ALREADY BUILT AND ALREADY IN OPERATION! AND DON'T TELL ME YOUR FRIEND BUILT THAT TRACK OR IMPROVED IT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DO SHIT EXCEPT COLLECT THE RENT.


Some people like to quote the Campbell Estate spin that says they did not force HMC to leave, they HAD BEEN (past tense) offering lease extensions and the decision to leave was HMC's. Note in that carefully worded PR babble that it no where says the DID offer a lease extension...

Spin is your forte retard. Read it again, HTF could they have not asked HRP to leave without offering ANOTHER lease extension as they had done several times already?


and yes HMC decided to leave because buying the place as a track didn't make financial sense when a better alternative was supposedly "in the bag".


Oh right. And the $5 million they got for selling the place had nothing to do with it. Mike get his new boat delivered yet?


Supposedly the main roadblock to the DHHL exchange was a personality conflict and past "history" between MO and some "high ups" within the Republican party. One guy was Bob Awana, Lingle's right hand... but he left the administration in disgrace (something about his girlfriend in the Phillipines (he's married, btw) who was pimping "escorts" for his friends... and some other scandals that were in the paper a while back). The next guy is Micah Kane, the director of DHHL... Bob's good buddy. Rather then butt heads and get no where, MO bowed out and let the other partners pursue the development.

More bullshit from the maestro. First of all, MO has a personality conflict with just about everybody. And the reason the deal never got done was because no one has been able to offer a value for value exchange. $48 million is the current assessed value of that Parcel 9 property. And your friend is about 43 million short. NEVER going to happen. And yeah I know because of WHO WE TALK TO. And please quit with the B.S. about MO not being involved. That's about as funny as MO not controlling OMAC. :eek:

FAA would never allow a racetrack on that parcel anyway. It's just another in a long line of real estate scams for this group. :mad:

[Need4Speed]

It is very upsetting that there is no race track in Honolulu County.

You posted letters about the land swap deal, which means the effort exists.

When Campbell Estate decided to sell the property, it appears HMC decided to let the option go and pursue the new facility at Parcel 9 which left the racers without a race track.

From reading this website, it seems as though you don't want this new facility to be built. You have points of oppostion though the solutions are not far away.

You are building a temporary track on land from DHHL yet you don't want anyone else to build a permanent track near the airport. Are you able to provide for all the racers and for how long?

[Chad89GT]

"This is a decision made by Hawai'i Raceway Park and was not caused by
Campbell Estate," estate spokeswoman Theresia McMurdo said. "We have
not asked Hawai'i Raceway Park to leave and in fact we have been
extending the lease."

This is a misleading statement and you bouht right into it. They did not specifically ask HMC to leave... they refused to renew the lease and offered the place up for sale. The decision not to buy was HMC's based on the other factors listed. Whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant.

By your own smoking gun, HMC sold the option to buy, right? How can they do that if CE didn't want to sell? HMC had no control over deciding if the land was to put up for sale... that was all CE. That'd be like you deciding to sell the fee on a house you rent... just can't do it.

I challenge you to provide an official document outlining a lease offer from CE to HMC. You'll never find one because it never existed. Until you can come up with that, your entire conspiracy theory is bunk.

The other thing you omit is that the "Evil MO" has been a racer for 40+ years. His kids and family are racers too. There's just no credibility in the argument he purposefully killed racing on Oahu. Besides, I trip over his *$#& go karts every day... wouldn't he have gotten rid of them if racing was dead?

I think it's just easier to blame one "evil" guy than to understand the true circumstances. This is the last post I'll make in this thread. If you want to continue the discussion you're free to engage in intelligent, respectful conversation over on PCHIH where this thread started. I really don't care to have communications accross 2 different boards... I have engines to build. :cool:

[dirt racer]

"This is a decision made by Hawai'i Raceway Park and was not caused by
Campbell Estate," estate spokeswoman Theresia McMurdo said. "We have
not asked Hawai'i Raceway Park to leave and in fact we have been
extending the lease."

This is a misleading statement and you bouht right into it. They did not specifically ask HMC to leave... they refused to renew the lease and offered the place up for sale. The decision not to buy was HMC's based on the other factors listed. Whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant.

By your own smoking gun, HMC sold the option to buy, right? How can they do that if CE didn't want to sell? HMC had no control over deciding if the land was to put up for sale... that was all CE. That'd be like you deciding to sell the fee on a house you rent... just can't do it.

I challenge you to provide an official document outlining a lease offer from CE to HMC. You'll never find one because it never existed. Until you can come up with that, your entire conspiracy theory is bunk.

The other thing you omit is that the "Evil MO" has been a racer for 40+ years. His kids and family are racers too. There's just no credibility in the argument he purposefully killed racing on Oahu. Besides, I trip over his *$#& go karts every day... wouldn't he have gotten rid of them if racing was dead?

I think it's just easier to blame one "evil" guy than to understand the true circumstances. This is the last post I'll make in this thread. If you want to continue the discussion you're free to engage in intelligent, respectful conversation over on PCHIH where this thread started. I really don't care to have communications accross 2 different boards... I have engines to build. :cool:

Not true Chad. The lease could have been extended. A zoning variance could have been applied for. Many single family homeowners were required to hook-up to the sewer system as well per EPA (and it didn't cost them $2 million as was being reported by Oakland).

How could HMC buy if Campbell didn't want to sell? The option to buy was already in the lease agreement that's how. Campbell had no choice but to abide by the lease. And FYI, Campbell didn't sell the property to Oakland knowing he would resell it. They were told that the racetrack would be kept operational, and he was given a very good purchase price (13 million).

Campbell Estate was being blamed for not renewing the lease in the press:

President of HRP, Mike Oakland, stresses that the track, which has been around since 1964, is indeed closing. The five-year lease extension signed in 1999 for HRP is up and will not be renewed by Campbell Estate.

http://kapio.kcc.hawaii.edu/upload/fullnews.php?id=222

That's why the Campbell Estate spokesperson made the press release - to set the record straight. The decision to close the park was HMC's.

Actually, if you go back to the press reports from 2004, Oakland was saying that the lease would expire in 2005. That was in an effort to force State Legislators to approve the tax credits, which they did not do in 2004, or 2005, or 2006.

Oakland has no credibility.

[Mud Packer]

It is very upsetting that there is no race track in Honolulu County.

You posted letters about the land swap deal, which means the effort exists.

When Campbell Estate decided to sell the property, it appears HMC decided to let the option go and pursue the new facility at Parcel 9 which left the racers without a race track.

From reading this website, it seems as though you don't want this new facility to be built. You have points of oppostion though the solutions are not far away.

You are building a temporary track on land from DHHL yet you don't want anyone else to build a permanent track near the airport. Are you able to provide for all the racers and for how long?

Every racer wants a big, expensive, up to date and permanent track to race on;WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE? WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE BUILT? HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE WAIT? You would think that the REAL reason why HRP was closed was that a new track was being built. And you would think that if a new track was being built that we could use HRP in the meantime until the new track is finished. But instead, we're arguing on the fuckin' computer about this shit! If OMAC can build a permanent track that can host all venues, they have my blessings. P.S Dont hold your breath though.

[Need4Speed]

You sound like a broken record. Change your needle.

[Mud Packer]

You sound like a broken record. Change your needle.
You sound like a redneck. Worsh your ass.

[Need4Speed]

Born here, guess again.

[dirt racer]

What is wrong with FH? (I mean besides Lena808)

[Mud Packer]

What is wrong with FH? (I mean besides Lena808)

I dont know where to start.

[dirt racer]

I mean besides all the retards, the thing keeps crashing. Server problem or something. :confused:

[mike_w]

They sound like broken records already. A waste of time to post there already. I got too many other things to do. :D :D

[mike_w]

:rolleyes: shallow gene pools :rolleyes:

[dirt racer]

They sound like broken records already. A waste of time to post there already. I got too many other things to do. :D :D

They've got the OMAC trolls ruining the board.

[Mud Packer]

They've got the OMAC trolls ruining the board.
Yah, and spankingmunkey wants to know who I am, but then he has me on his ignore list- how gay is that?

[mike_w]

Nice too meet you, Bob. :) :)

[dirt racer]

Yah, and spankingmunkey wants to know who I am, but then he has me on his ignore list- how gay is that?

Put everyone on your ignore list, then read the forum. Makes sense. :rolleyes:


I had some SCCA people stop by with some help for the track yesterday. I get no shop work done with all you guys! :mad:

Ryan beating up on Memo was funny though. :D

[dirt racer]

Good tail winds yesterday...

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Dec/05/br/br2157930468.html

[dirt racer]

Yah, and spankingmunkey wants to know who I am

So does Lena808. :eek: